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The guy who took the shots for the paper said there wasn't much in it. Seems some in the crowd were getting into the boys and security thought it better to move the players out of harms way and get the crowd back under control. The only mistake I can see is one of judgement in being at the "G" in the outer, pity it has come to this but there are a lot of DH's in the world. The only players to arc up were a Geelong and Richmond player, according to the newspaper man the players moved on without incident apart from the Geelong guy who took offence to something some clown said. Unfortunately it made for some good pix at a quiet time. Anyone see anything there from a Melbourne listed player that was a major issue. I think we are a little shell shocked on here after what we had to put up with in season 2012 but it seems our players were just enjoying a day at the cricket, hardly a hanging offence and hardly any need for club action.

How many times can the Hawks be smarting from lost opportunities, they can't afford to keep playing this card. For such a great coach with their list they are probably the most under performed and disappointing club in the comp. Collingwood have done well with draft picks but will they have an immediate impact? their trading to my mind is highly overrated, Lynch is no back up ruck man nor a key forward.

How do you know they were, looked like they were having a bit of fun with the plastic cups in one shot. Doesn't mean they drank them all. If they were s....faced then maybe a different story, I'm just not jumping to any conclusions here. The only dodgy shot was of an ex player with his teammate; now Jared does get a bit prickly when someone says something he doesn't like, and there is always bound to be some DH in the crowd mouthing off. By the way 99% of guests don't have heroes with a big mouth having a go at them, maybe that happened maybe it didn't. Maybe AFL players need to be locked away 24 7 apart from training, matches and media engagements for 12 months of the year. It's always going to be an issue.

I remember having a go at one of our so called supporters, every club has them, who was calling Greg a weak ....gutless etc.. It was the week after he broke a cheek bone and still fronted up for the next game, the guy backed down of course and so he should have. Greg was a very good and courageous Melbourne player.

He was in the boot at training on Friday, would think it is precautionary following surgery.

A great christmas to all and a re awakening of the Demons in 2013. Look forward to some full on debate about football in the new year, we've just about had our share of off field stuff this year. Hopefully only the tanking all clear to go and then we can get on with the business of winning games. Cheers

A good read, thanks for that.

Don't worry 'Freddy', I can't see us going anywhere near him and I hope Casey are not stupid enough too.

Marilyn!

I think he is good for the club, watching him and Toumpas in action at training the other day and the interaction they have with the other players I think the club has been pulling the right reins.

Hardly good witnesses then you would think but interesting to know. Now for the guessing game.

Personally I think it is a big mistake for Sydney and goes against the way they have built their famous culture but lets wait and see. I also don't believe they didn't know about the contract arrangement Tippett had to move to the club of his choice, why else would they have thought they would have any chance of picking him up with little to offer Adelaide in return. Remember, he wasn't a free agent. The AFL then opened the path to Sydney with their manipulation of the draft.

I think Bailey is a decent guy but there is a lot of revisionism going on here. I agree with WYL that he was hung out to dry in his press conference and I think he should have coached out the year, I mean there were not a lot of games left so let him leave with some dignity. The club handled this poorly in my opinion. However, he did leave with a little barb in the comment re tanking, he was hurting and that is human. My hindsight view is he would have been better off leaving with a comment as made by his lawyer today saying we weren't in finals contention and in the interests of the club I was looking to develop youth. The comment he did make was ambiguous enough to make Kevin Bartlett see that tanking may actually exist and it brought about the first AFL enquiry. As I say the club handled this poorly and it has come back to bite. I think his later comments in regard to the list saying we had a large window (bi fold I think his words were) opening and would play finals in 2013 and beyond were either delusional or designed to put pressure on the incumbent, Mark Neeld. This has been compounded by some in the media and on this forum who continually bring up the wins in 2011 v 2012. As for the idea of him putting the clubs interests over his own, I think he saw them as one in the same thing. It's just that after the Geelong debacle and probably before in the admin eyes this wasn't going to be the case.

It's worth a new thread to get this news out there, it is not more of the same because we haven't heard from Bailey about this issue since he left the club. I would say this is pretty significant news. The thread can be merged later when it drifts down the same path.

I think you are right with the intensity being down a bit but still a solid session. Post Darwin pre Christmas, I would expect the intensity to be up significantly towards the end of January. Nicholson went in early with Garland, they did some light work before the main group started. He wasn't with the rehab group. Grimes was with that group before moving on to the main oval to run some lap times as did Dawes. A few things I noticed were Toumpas gets around and gets involved, he's creating a positive presence. Dawes is a big unit and was working up some good pace in his run throughs, will be a handful in the coming season. Barry is an athlete with great skills, will be interesting to watch in match conditions. Davey is working into training, moving and kicking well. Evans looks in great shape and hopefully gets a clear run at it. Tommy Mc has been working on his kicking (ball drop) but will still be a work in progress, be interesting to watch when under pressure on match day to see if he can keep his technique. Sammy Blease still has a bit of work to do on the tank but his is doing it and getting support to keep at it, he has the right attitude (and ability) and that's why he is still there and others have been moved on.

I would have thought Wallace and the Tiges would be in trouble here. He has admitted to not performing on his merits and not allowing his side to perform on it's merits by saying he sat back and did nothing so that they could get Cotchin. It's out there in the public arena for all to see, no need for an investigation.

I think we have enough on our plate at the moment but down the track it is something worthwhile.

Think they're (read MR and CW) on holidays 'BB' that's why the AFL is getting things out of the way now, including AA's departure. Get things cleared up while Punch & Judy are away.

The good old 'VIBE', yep now that's solid evidence.

Fully agree mate and my consternation has nothing to do with Deegirl post either. That is information, but the roll over posts just p me off. Adelaide were charged with something and decided they should give themselves a penalty, good for them. We have not been charged with anything yet and may not be charged at all. If we are then we deal with it.

The new rule "poor attempt at comedy in an inappropriate place".

I wouldn't be worried about that, they are learning to go low in the tackle. If he gets anywhere near the shoulder it will be a poor tackle.

Give up your day job 'Redleg'.

This one is getting up there with the most ridiculous things I've read on here. Let's see the evidence first.

Nup! let them prove it. If they have written or audio evidence of a player being told to lay down then if they produce it we are in trouble, I doubt any such evidence exists. Otherwise there is no case to answer and they can go .......