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Well balanced post 'hoopla', even for an accountant.

I would only worry about the training reports if I knew the personal program Misson has him on, same with Davey. We don't know what they are required to be doing at this stage of the season and both have a history with injury. let's hope they are both tuned and ready to go round one 2013, not pre season 2012.

That's right 'nutbean' and in Robbie's case we did get to see what he would have been like in the State games when he had better players around him he was an absolute stand out. You can judge a player a lot by what opposition supporters say and you would be going to find any that didn't think Robbie was a star.

You're so right there.

Does anyone know if the profit figure included the 700k raised by the foundation hero's or was it a pure trading profit?

Thanks for confirming that , so chances are we might have picked him up at a bargain price.

These are all good questions 'Robbie' and need to be debated, but not from a position of fear. I would say that there are more than 2 sides to the drug debate. They do have a big part to play in all of this "Robbie' and you shouldn't write it off with throw away statement. To have a proper debate all angles need to be considered. You raise some interesting questions about tobacco and alcohol, have you ever heard Bob Newhart's sketch on Sir Walter Raleigh bringing tobacco to England from the new world, very funny, also very cutting about the habit. ...but what is the answer or do you think we are on top of things as they stand now. We have it right.

As has been stated many times, you don't lose pace as a 20yo. Something else, most probable OP was at play. I expect Trengove to establish himself as an A grader in the next couple of years, lets hope he can convert this to elite.

Thanks again for your post 'Tassie Devil', I knew there was some influence placed on the ACT proposal but wasn't sure what or how. Interesting that they involved the Tasmanians.

You're a lucky man 'Robbie'.

Unfortunately even if it was so, that no longer seems to be the case.

Think you might be on the money there 'Bif'. It's a little like the argument Collingwood have been making to get Lou as a legend of the game. He is certainly a legendary figure of the game as is Jimmy but Jimmy has transcended the game with his outside work and influence. It's all a matter of definition in the end and even then there is still personal opinion as to that definition and who fits the criteria.

Thanks for your response 'Tassie', what is driving this prohibition policy? I have heard the US government puts pressure on other countries to hold some kind of prohibition model, is this correct and if so how do they get compliance?

'Robbie', I'm sure 'Tassie Devil' will be better placed to reply to your post but to my mind we already have a huge problem with drugs in our society on a par with alcohol and tobacco so the present approach isn't working. There also seems to be a vested interest in keeping the status quo, there is a lot of money to be made in illegal drugs plus there also seems to be a thriving prison sector that is being privatised built on the back of drug related crime. I'm interested in how we can make things better, what is the best approach. The one thing I know is that prohibition doesn't work, never has.

Definitely one of the great stories of the game but I'm with you on this, I couldn't rate him with the ones I've mentioned before.

Yep and even without the new inclusions this is where a lot of the improvement will come from, also add Silvia, Grimes, McDonald and Frawley to that list.

We shouldn't also forget their cosy relationship with the gambling industry and the cost of that to many peoples lives. A question for you 'tassie and biff', I've thought for a long while now that some form of legalisation would be best. With the newer drugs like 'Ice' I haven't come into contact much with users, I'm a bit out of that loop now. The media talks up the violence associated with some of these drugs, as a drug heroin causes issues for users to get the money and relationships with dealers so there is often crime associated with it and sometimes violent crime but the drug it self pacifies the user. The question is would some form of legalisation work for things like ice or would it create an even more violent society? I am aware of the problems alcohol as a legal drug causes as I was king hit from behind a few years back at a late night bottle shop but would legalising be a good option. You guys and 'WYL' seem to have a good handle on these issues so I'm interested in your opinions.

I may be wrong but I think I read somewhere that he was either injured or recovering from illness that ruled him out.

Me too mate, and they say stay clear and I will trade you your draft observers who more often than not go on second hand information and may or may not have seen him in the flesh for 2 dee supporters that have and 18 clubs. As for timid rovers if there is such a position in football anymore, Jack Viney says Hi!

If you had watched more than a highlight reel and maybe watched him over the course of a season or 2 like 'pennant st dee and demonWA' then I might put some credence in what you are saying. They are saying no (as is every club in the land) and I will trust their local knowledge on this. Love your passion for him as a player but I think you will find it is misplaced.

I wouldn't think so. As we've found young talent alone isn't enough and both are light on for senior players with the exception of Ablett at GC.

One of life's little mysteries that one.

Unfortunately it is for her, what a sad person she is.

I've probably said this before but when I first heard Mark Fine I was wondering why they let this yob on the radio but I persisted with him and find him a breath of fresh air, he has a touch of the common man about him and you've just gotta love it when he pays out on some dh on the final siren...so long as it's not you.

It's your opinion mate, not a disgrace either way. We all see things differently, it's only the word disgrace I have an issue with. One of the things that makes sport great are the differing opinions we have, it really makes this site hum along even when there are no games being played. You gotta love it.