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Wasn't sure of the point, thanks. The whole team will have to work for each other, something we haven't done in a long time.

Not sure how he does this, maybe a teammate could help or an umpire might just interpret the rules in the right way.

Must admit I got a bit bored by the end with nothing hanging on the result. ...but it is good to watch a bit of footy and Stevie J always keeps me entertained. Can't say the commentary has improved any though.

I think Clark is a bit more in the Ottens mould but if Fitz could improve his ruck work it would be a bonus.

I hope you pointed out Dom Tyson to him, apparently he has never seen him play. Didn't stop him from having a dumb opinion about the trade though.

I think you will see King on Friday night, it may be his only game for the year but Roos has flagged that he will play due injury of our big men.

That's good to know, I'll stop worrying about him now.

Reckon you're pretty close 'master'.

Not going to happen.

Me thinks Hird's dad is being a bit petty.

I don't think anyones really making a comparison of the 2 players just the situation and it wasn't a serious point anyway, more about wishing Max well in his first game for the club.

I'm not sure any AFL player could beat the Geelong guy (not going to try spell his name) in a time trial. He could run but not play footy, or so we thought. Max can play footy, maybe he's hiding his running talent (lol).

Good luck to Max, similar thing happened with Geelong last pre season. Take your chance big fella.

Protect your teammates at all costs. It was a pretty poor effort and showed where we were as a team that no one wanted to fly the flag that day.

Someone reported a couple of weeks back that he may have nicked the hammy a little (following previous problem). Maybe this is right as he seems to have backed off since then.

Nah, the game needs people like Grant Thomas. The Lyon, Hutchie, Wilson show is much poorer for his absence. He had a few little digs but did say this. "Make no mistake he is the right appointment after previous 2 debacles and will be super for their future"

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No it won't happen because he will be forward/ruck. I'd prefer him as our first ruck.... just saying

Why, because we should be looking forward not back. The forwards as you noted are getting taller, kids are getting bigger in general. Lake is 195 and over 100kg, Frawley is 193 and around 94kg he would be better playing a Scarlett type role. Lonergan is 197 and close on 100kg that's why he generally gets the big jobs and Taylor uses his strengths to zone off or play against suitable match ups. Frawley v Riewoltd, Tommy Mac v other Riewoldt are good match ups. Cloke and Tippett are hard match ups, Boyd and Carlisle will be even harder matches when they get some experience also a tall kid at the dogs now. Frawley has to work overtime on Buddy, that little bit of reach means he gives away free kicks. If he can't get body contact on and the way the rules are being interpreted (going against the body work of the defender) then it is becoming more important to get a long arm in. One of Fletchers strengths at around 197cm with long arms. Closing speed will be important no matter what size a defender is. Now I'm not saying Fitz is the answer but I am saying the size and pace he has is what we need to be looking for and not another 193cm defender like a Dylan Grimes. Also there is nothing wrong with trying him there, as you say Thompson was on his last chance looking for a position. Clark will be used to rotate in the ruck when fit. The big guys are all in competition for one ruck spot. Fitz will take Clark's place if he is not fit but he won't have a permanent place. We won't be taking in 2 of the other 3, Gawn, Spencer or Jamar. So Fitz is a bit of a floater. He could be a permanent forward, in competition with Dawes, Hogan and Pedersen. A relief ruck/forward in competition with Clark and Pedersen. Or the key ruck (unlikely) in competition with Spencer, Gawn and Jamar. Maybe he could make a name for himself in the back line. Who knows, just floating the idea.

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My point was that he (Thompson) was the prototype of the modern tall defender. We already have someone similar in size and speed in Fitzpatrick who may be worth a run in defence. Also no reason we shouldn't have a crack at Thompson.

This is where I will be looking first to see any improvement made. It's this sort of thing that was a give away in previous NAB cup games that we still hadn't got it right. It's been too easy for the opposition to score against us.

Happy to let it go as long as you don't try and change the story. I don't except that Neeld was the only mistake this club made and I believe he was a symptom of the mistakes made at the club. If you don't post stupid comments like this then there is no need to answer you back. Keep to the training reports, they are interesting. 'stuie', you were one of Schwab's biggest supporters on this site. As I've just said in a previous post, if you don't want to go over old ground then maybe have a go at some of the posters that try and reinvent history. I'm not going to have that he was a victim, he was front and square at the centre of our current problems and when anyone posts different then it just gets me going again.

We need a big key defender, someone at plus 196 around the 100kg mark. Rory Thompson at GC is a prototype defender, tall and quick closing speed. At the moment we have Col Garland at 191, Chip at 193 and Tommy Mc at 194.

Agree with all but Schwab, never wanted him back at the club.