rjay

Lets start with McAdam, like he's not in our side now he spent a lot of time injured at Adelaide. Ok, we've been through this a lot but you don't want to believe it. We all know there's a problem, the coach, the FD, the fans, the media... The game plan can be argued, it drives me to distraction as well. ...but if we don't have the forwards it's no point opening the game up for opposition rebound. We would get scored heavily against. As much as I hate the game plan, I don't think it's the issue. It's the cattle...you can't put out a forward line of Schache, Chandler, Laurie & Spargo and expect big scores. ...but the options weren't really there. Every time we've come up with something that looks to work injury has struck us down. Petty straightens us up, McAdam will be a help and I reckon Tholstrup will be a beauty. Kozzy cost us big time the other night. The game plan will change when we get the forward mix right. Bringing Salem into the midfield mix will also be a big help, but again injury (Bowey) might torpedo this. I sure hope we persist. We're not refusing to acknowledge there is a problem, as you say Goody himself acknowledges it to the point of boredom.

Not sure we've sold the farm in early draft picks. We've been pretty successful. Weid is the only top 10 KPF of recent times that's been a bust.

I suggest pretty much everyone on here knows there is a problem. The coach knows it, the FD knows it. As for the headline about us refusing to address it, I would say that's a crock. We've tried a raft of things to address it, some have been successful for short periods, others not. Injury & unavailability has been a big part of the problem...along with unavailable options of players to poach from elsewhere. That is not refusing to address the problem.

You can't have it both ways '3165'.. We either don't get we have a problem or we do... ...which one is it? The FD obviously know there is an issue as Goody has consistently stated. No one here has their red and blue patches on...we all know we have a forward line issue. Dermott is no genius and all your banging on doesn't change it. ...but it's not an easy fix otherwise it would have already been done.

If you think the FD don't know this and haven't tried to fix the problem you've got rocks in your head. Every one can bang on about it as much as they want but what is the answer. You can't make an in contract player just decide to come to us. The only proven out of contract KPF available over the last few years was BBB and we got him. Some other contracts have come up but their clubs know their value and have made it near impossible to pry them away.

No can't see BBB being ready either, that was wishful thinking. Was going to mention LJ but was posting on the run. I think Fullerton is the one we've targeted to take this role. Longer term I think our preference is the 3 talls forward but that really is contingent on the quality and that we don't have at the moment. Agree on Salem in the middle. He really adds something different. Add a bit of Kozi in there and suddenly we're a bit more unpredictable.

We used to run with 2 KPF’s & a resting ruck. I would bring in BBB if he’s right to go & Fullerton who is a mobile ruck.

The only thing that will help Max is Max himself... If he starts to play better the more he gets targeted then it will stop pretty quickly. There are players you never physically target for that reason. You don't want to fire them up into dominant performances. However, it would be nice to have big Carl in his prime running around in the background.

It really did as we also had to move Salem out to the middle...

Laurie, Spargo, Billings, Chandler..keep one of them...probably Chandler. Tip the rest. Of course Koz comes back and we need at another tall at least to help JVR. Look at Tholstrup, Woey, Sestan someone with a bit of extra size and grunt... ...and young Brown who has a bit more zip than the pedestrians we had in last night. Even look at AMW. It would have to have been the most boring, ineffective forward line in the AFL for a long time.

Viney, whilst good was also one of the culprits. We've lost all semblance of team first footy and have gone backwards.

He sure is 'Webber' and one of the best forwards in the game who also gets left out of that discussion.

...and was his intent to smother or to put pressure on the ball carrier. I think the later. The attempted smother was a smoke screen.

We will all know at the end of September... These predictions are set up to make us all look like fools. So, let me say that things rarely go in a straight line as far as life and sport are concerned. Brisbane to have a rocky ride this season...

I'd be surprised... In most cases these days personal stuff would be a no go zone unless you're a certain Brisbaner.

I think Joe is still hopeless in the ruck...it's his work on the ground with 2nd and 3rd efforts where he comes into his own. Going to be interesting to see how the rule change effects him.

On something so straight forward...really

According to the AFL's defence against the class action it must be Mark Keane's fault for playing & the Crows for putting him out on the ground. SPP has no case to answer...

That's a pity...

We sure do 'dazz'...

I think Salem is such a smart player...his quick hands and thinking around the contest if back to full fitness will be a positive. Plus he is a strong tackler. So, his ball use and defensive pressure could be a real positive in the midfield.

I would play Verrall ahead of Schache. Definite option for me...

Not sure he was a good list decision. Forms been ok but... did we need to go down this path.

I'm not so bothered by the culture 'bin'... I always find that talk a little flimsy with all clubs. Of course if we don't perform well on field this season then the C word will be all over here and the media. It's going to be a tough year. We are 5+ down before we start the season. 2 will not be back. 2 are pretty much done for, Tommy and BBB. Melk is out for at least half the season. Who knows how things will pan out for Clarry. Petty can't get on the park. It's going to be tough, good culture or not. List management might be an interesting discussion. There have been some puzzling decisions the last couple of seasons.

So was ours... No one expected us to play finals let alone win it.