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I really hope he doesn't compound his initial mistake with this. Needs to be Max as captain, no copping out with the co captain thing.

He's one dimensional 'TGR'...a tough Captain like Selwood is renowned for his empathy with teammates. I'm pretty sure Hodge would be similar. Jack hasn't learned this, maybe he will, maybe he won't. ...he's also a very selfish player on the ground. I can understand why he didn't get the player vote. It was Goodwin's first mistake making the captains call on Viney. I hope he doesn't repeat it by making him co captain. Think how Mitchell was moved on for Hodge at Hawthorn and it didn't hurt them. Let him learn...and be a better more team oriented player.

This doesn't surprise me... A bit of looking from the outside but also a little inside info. Jack is a very focussed individual, he might lack a bit of empathy and understanding. Wholistic leadership may not be a strong suit...

It sounds like the club have been feeding us BS on the May injury... From a cyst, a week off training, to a minor complication, a week off training. Now might not play first game or more. That tells me that 2nd week is more like 4 to 6.

In one way I'm happy we are short on representation (only Nev). We need our players working together as a team and it means they can play both of our practice games without compromise. ...but I do feel for Oliver. He deserves to get the honour and the jumper.

We walked in 2018, if we're not in the mix this year then we've got problems.

Don't worry about this time in 2016. In the 2016 finals the Champion Data stats said they couldn't win it.

Champion data said we had the best list coming into season 2019...how did that work out? We have a much better list this year but now they rate us in the bottom 3rd...How does that work? I wouldn't be basing my argument on Champion date stats...they're good at what they do but this is not it.

Same...like the body language he was talking about later in the episode, words, the spoken language around the group is really important. Sometimes people underrate the power of words...actions will follow if said and followed through with conviction.

Mine to 'Red', love the way she goes about it. Hope she's in with us for the long haul...

Same as the men's team...but WC and GWS. Hopefully the same result.

It's much better than that...

You've got me all wrong. It's the supporters who think just making the 8 is good enough or putting in a good effort should be the pass. They're way off the mark. I'm judging the team and Goodwin on where they should be at this stage of the game. ...and that is top 4 and no less. If we don't get there then serious questions should be asked as we've now had long enough since Roos and PJ came on board to turn the ship around. Forget the win from adversity stuff, at this stage we should be up there as contenders with the Tiges, GWS and the like. I will be disappointed if we make the 8 win a couple of finals and drop out like we did in 2018. We've got to be better or it's a fail from me.

Not really...we're in effect coming from 4th. ...and with a much better list.

We have a markedly better list than we had in 2018. Last year was the outlier, you can't play above yourself but you can certainly play below. A list of factors conspired to give us season 2019. This is why I don't take into consideration this rubbish of only 5 wins, it's a big leap. It's actually not if we take the 14 wins plus a couple of finals from 2018 and build from there. We learn the lessons of 2019 and don't disregard them but we build on 2018. Top 4 is the pass mark for this season. Anything less is a fail...

Seems to have ended up on the outer 'dazz'... Be interested to know how he went from a highly regarded football person to slipping out of the system.

We differ greatly on this. ...and remember, Lyon is not coaching a club now so I expect him to be quite illuminating rather than cryptic.

I think the old model worked for then but now the game is more coached than ever, for better or worse. Reckon football media is behind the times with little to no new ideas. My point is there should be at least one coach on the panel. One coach off, one coach on. Not another player. Take Nick on but get rid of one of the others. Dunstall who is no longer on the show was the pick of that bunch for mine...an astute football brain.

They are only the chess pieces 'SWYL'... I would like to hear from the chess master.

Anyone know where he's ended up? Was looking to coach VFL?

Doesn't really understand anything from the coaches perspective. Modern day players don't have a clue what goes on in the coaches box, they only know the little that has to do with their own position. Any player that goes into coaching as an assistant says they didn't know what hit them. They didn't know the half of what goes on. Then it's another step up to the top job. This appointment is a retrograde step to my mind... The game has gone past just a couple of ex players sitting on the couch. They're going with their personality pick rather than someone with a coaching background in the modern game. As footy fans and people that take a real interest in the game, we deserve better. Brad Scott, a left field choice perhaps. I know he has a job in the AFL but the others all have jobs off the couch, it shouldn't preclude someone like him. So, if we look at all the TV footy media 9 have picked up Lyon, a good get. ...but they cancel it out with Lloyd. Right up there in the useless category. Apart from Lyon the only other coach I can think of on TV is Mathews and he's long past it, doesn't really know the players and doesn't do his homework.

Is that the MCGM or MCGW???? Or could it be the MCG or WCG?

Seems like the Doggies are this seasons golden boys... Don't really see it myself.

I actually thought that was a good kick, his teammate was caught behind 2 opponents and Kozzie cleverly spooned over the top into space more to his advantage where he could and did run on to it. If he had of hit it flat it would have gone to an opponent in front. Smart thinking...

This might tell the story... If it was a total fabrication then I would think they might be a bit more than mildly angry... They're are a weird mob at Freo.