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I'd personally have pick 9 in the team over pick 5

I wonder if we will do a small slide for an extra pick? Last year we saw clubs throwing an extra second round pick to move up one spot on draft night. Could we perhaps convince Richmond to do 9 for picks 10 and 24? The incentive for Richmond would be the risk of another team coming for our pick with another offer.

As others have said, I hope we angle for pick 66 and Sharp for 49. Pick 66 may end up coming in by 10-15 selections and give us a late stab in the draft.

My thoughts will probably change on this but I would be very happy with a Lalor + Berry outcome.

It looks a race in two between the Pies and Demons, who have thrown big pick offers at a number of clubs in the hope to land another first-rounder in 2024. Gold Coast's call will be trade period-shaping one given the impact on Houston. Houston, Barrass and more: State of play on major trade deals - https://www.afl.com.au/news/1242795

She'll be fine, hasn't quite adjusted to the pace yet but when it comes together she'll be an excellent forward.

My guess is 40, 54 and 65 for Sharp and 34 (hopefully 32). Values sharp as pick 56 and gives the Lions close to 200 extra points for bid matching. Keep 49 for Derksen if GWS decide to entertain a deal. Not sure how many picks we're taking to the draft but we may be able to combine 34 and 49 to move inside 30 if GWS continue to hold firm on Derksen. That or flip one for a future pick if we aren't picking up 4 draftees.

MELBOURNE has opened talks with Brisbane on a deal for contracted winger Harry Sharp, who has already requested a trade to the Demons. While the exact details of the agreement are yet to be finalised, a move for Sharp is likely to help the Lions bank picks and points to match bids on draft guns Levi Ashcroft and Sam Marshall. All six picks within Melbourne's current draft hand (No.5, 28, 40, 49, 54 and 65) have points attached, with a swap of later selections that accumulates more points for Brisbane likely to make up the bones of the trade. Sharp requested a move to Melbourne on Friday after meeting with Demons officials earlier in the Trade Period, with the tireless winger hopeful of earning more senior opportunities in Victoria next season. The 21-year-old was restricted to just six AFL games this season and was an emergency in the Lions' victorious Grand Final-winning team. Melbourne has been on the hunt for more running power after losing Alex Neal-Bullen to Adelaide, with Sharp the current record holder for the draft combine's 2km time trial after completing the event in 5.28 minutes to smash the previous record by 20 seconds in his draft year back in 2020. Sharp is contracted at Brisbane for 2025, but informed the club during the week that he wished to explore his options after being restricted to just 16 games across his four seasons on the Lions' list. – Riley Beveridge

Any vision or pics of our players training?

Can't see how Eagles say yes to that. It will essentially be pick 4 for 15 and 17. Carlton would be adding something else to make it work, a player perhaps?

+ Sharp

Have corrected

BOMBERS PONDER OPTIONS ON TOP PICK ESSENDON has conceded it will be difficult to move up the draft order and get in ahead of an Isaac Kako bid, with the Bombers now listening to rival offers for their No.9 selection. As reported by AFL.com.au on Wednesday, Melbourne is among the teams expected to come hard for pick No.9 as Essendon ponders moving the selection back or into the future to avoid it being absorbed by an earlier bid on Kako. Speaking to AFL.com.au's Gettable on Thursday, Bombers list manager Matt Rosa revealed the club had tried to get up the order but said it is unlikely such a possibility would eventuate. "We've explored that," Rosa said. "We've spoken to some clubs ahead of us to see if there's the potential of moving up. But I think, as time goes on, we've really realised that it's going to be hard to potentially move up in this draft. Everyone is valuing those high picks. It's something that we'll keep exploring, but I would say it's unlikely at this stage." Instead, Essendon is more likely to move the pick back – subsequently amassing more points to match a bid on Kako – or into the future, to ensure it doesn't get lost completely when a bid on the small forward is placed. "We're still living in a space where we're just assessing all of our options," Rosa said. "We have had some offers and some interest in that pick No.9, whether it be for us to move back and potentially move into the future. We're in a position where we've just really got to listen to all opportunities. "Clearly, the pointy end of this draft is strong. It would need to be quite a special offer for us to consider giving up that pick No.9 at this stage. But we're listening to all options at the moment." Essendon could wait through the Trade Period and into draft night before deciding on whether it shifts pick No.9, with the club hopeful of using three or four selections at this year's draft. – Riley Beveridge

Draft math time. Dees bid on Kako @ pick 6 6 = 1751 points Bombers get a 20% discount so need 1400 points. Bombers trade 9 for GWS for 16 and 17. 16 = 1067 points Leaving them 333 points short. From here, they can trade 17 down again for further points to match. Or the pick slides back by that amount. In this case, 333 point deficit pushes pick 17 out to 28. So essentially turn 9 into Kako and pick 28 (or an earlier pick if split with another club wanting pick 17) if they deal with GWS. Of course other bids for academy players like Lombard and Marshall will affect this. Bombers will then weigh up their ideal outcome. Kako + 28 - by trading down (with GWS specifically) or Pick 6 + Kako - by using their future 1st plus extra draft picks to get ahead of a Kako bid. (Not sure they have enough here to entice a club to do this). The may even hope to trade in an earlier 1st round pick and hope Kako slides past 9 to give them say 6, 9 and Kako. Highly unlikely I would think. Or Trade out of pick 9 downwards and into the future. Example might be dees offer Future 1st plus picks 28, 47, 53 to give them points to match a Kako bid. Kako + dees f1

Only way I see Oliver leaving is if Saints, Bombers or Tigers put their hand up and convince him to come. Cats aren't going to pay that much for him.

Unlikely freo would trade 11 to us I would say then unless they really want to load up on picks for Warner.

We should be in the conversation for that pick but tigers will be hard to beat if they want it and it sounds like they do. Tigers: 24, 32, 42, 43, 45, 51, 61, 70 Melbourne: 28, 40, 49, 54, 64 Bulldogs: 35, 48 (incoming Daniel, Macrae and ?Smith picks) GWS: 21, 37, 53, 56

GWS apparently into Stringer. Wonder if they land him they'll be more inclined to release Derksen?

@Pennant St Dee Highlights of Cody Angove, believe you said we may have shown some interest in him earlier in the year?

Can't agree sorry. As horrible as we finished this year we are not a bottom 4 team. Academy picks don't make any difference to us as they were never available in the open pool anyway. Next year we have the ability to trade two years in advance to get back into the first round. Failing that, if we do have a dumpster fire year then we will easily get two first rounders for Petracca and potentially a good pick for Oliver (pending form on and off the field) if one or both want out and we want to reset down the youth pathway. Better to get as much quality kids in early and have that extra years development. I'm looking forward to seeing the possibility of two midfielders (or whatever type of player we select) to develop alongside Windsor and Tholstrup as our next wave of elite players.

Essentially we are interested in one of freos picks with our f1. May not happen if freo use two current first rounders for Bolton. We've been "blown out of the water" for suns pick 13 by other clubs.

Was hoping it was a third first round pick somehow.

2h ago 12:39 A BID for Essendon Academy product Isaac Kako is expected to be "right on the cusp" of the Bombers' pick No.9 in this year's draft, according to AFL.com.au's Cal Twomey. The Bombers have first access to small forward Kako in November's Telstra AFL Draft because he is part of the club's Next Generation Academy. Rival clubs can place a bid on Kako at any time on draft night and the Bombers would then have to give up its next pick as part of its effort to match the bid and bring the young forward to the club. Twomey believes a bid for Kako could come before the Bombers' first pick, with St Kilda, Melbourne and Richmond all interested. That would mean the Bombers would lose their pick 9 when they match the bid. Instead, Twomey says the Bombers may look to do a deal to get ahead of a bid, which would net them a player at the top end of the draft as well as Kako. "I think it's precarious for the Bombers," he said on Continental Tyres AFL Trade Radio on Tuesday. "They're at nine, he's had strong interest from St Kilda, Melbourne and Richmond, the clubs that will likely hold picks five, six, seven, eight before the Bombers enter the draft. "I've said this a few times, I stand by it, I'm all for Essendon using a pick to get up ahead of it, even if it means using a future first-round pick to get in really early in the draft. "Would you offer up nine and a future one to get up to three for West Coast? Would nine be too far back for the Eagles to push? What you do there though, next year when you're without a pick, you've got two first-rounders to buy back in and that gives you some flex. "Isaac Kako, it's going to be right on the cusp, right on that mark. If it's not before then, it's going to be just afterwards so that leaves you in a dangerous spot and the extra pick coming last week as part of the compensation for Josh Battle wasn't a great result for them." - Dejan Kalinic

Richmond are going to have a stack of picks. I wonder if there is appeal from the Tiges to get pick 2 from North for 6 and 10? Tigers take the first two kids and will still potentially have a couple of late first round picks as well. North get Armstrong and Tauru. I'm not sure I'd do that if I was Richmond though.