Undeeterred

In fact, what would be much better is to do what most other world sports do and give the players the freedom to move when they want to, within very broad parameters. The idea of 'owning' the rights to players and therefore holding them hostage is ludicrous. The idea of my employer being able to direct which competitor I can and can't work for is just laughable and I'm yet to hear a good reason why footballers should be any different.

Geez Collingwood are turds. They're perfectly willing to pillage our player who wants out for personal reasons when it suits, but when their own player wants out, they tell him basically to get stuffed and tell Brisbane he is worth more than a pick 4. http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/collingwoods-beams-in-bid-to-go-home-20140924-10lkmt.html I hope the karma bus drives straight over the top of the lot of them.

If what Machsy says is true, it probably shows a really clear intent from the new guard to properly clean out the old. It seems odd, but they didn't seem at all keep to stop Sylvia leaving and it is becoming more likely that they aren't trying too hard to stop Clark either. Perhaps in Frawley's case they thought a top 5 pick was better to use in trading in someone similar, who doesn't have the associated baggage (Jaksch or similar?)

Not sure why everybody keeps going on about Frawley's worth. It is entirely irrelevant. What is relevant is his age and new contract, and where our relevant pick sits. If we were at pick 10 this year, we'd get pick 11. It has nothing to do with value.

Another one who was surprisingly absent. Got a lot of potential but, also, another who has to fulfil it soon.

Really?? If you can point to one post when you mention that, I'd be amazed.

Really? How about something like - we'll only give you your money if you don't [censored] us over and go to another club next year? You can't make a player stay but you sure as hell can make them sit out a year - I'd be willing to burn a PSD2 pick to do it.

Would have been more use than Garland.... But exactly what you want from a rookie. Dependable depth when required.

What a wally this bloke is. So he's talking to both of the teams who have the oldest lists in the comp and who have both been bundled out in straight sets from top 4 possies. He'd be mad to go to Freo - they simply can't fill as many holes as will sprout in the next couple of years so he'd want to start winning flags with them pretty bloody quickly.

A real WTF happened there kind of player.

Probably the worst player to kick 5 goals in a game other than the previously almost unknown player from any other club who seems to do it against us at least once or twice a year. Just the wrong type of player at the wrong time. Ten years ago he would have been a star.

Wasn't that bump against Adelaide an absolute rip snorter. I really hope he didn't fade towards the end of the year because the aggression is leaching out of his game.

I think it would be a touch easier to swallow in Lockett's case than in Robinson's.

Wow. What an unbelievable coincidence!

Bingo.

So we really want to bring in the guy who concussed Rohan Bail behind play? Gee, what could possibly go wrong?

After tonight, I wouldn't want to be going down to Geelong. They're cooked.

Have the chauffeur bring the car around the front, James. You're free to go.

It would be pretty hilarious to see North get rolled by 5 goals in the last ten minutes, I have to say... Even I don't hate Geelong enough to not take pleasure from that prospect.

Bet that guy who wrote the article this week in The Age about how it was practically impossible for North to win is feeling a bit of a dill.

Perfect scenario. Geelong get bundled in straight sets and North, thinking they are all that, will get absolutely spanked by Sydney. Best of both worlds.

Deanox has it right. We may need to burn a few highish picks to right the ship and get back to mid-table. While in the long run that will hurt us as we may lose a 10 year superstar or two, unfortunately we don't have that long to wait. We just need to get amongst it in the next year or two, get some strong players in the 25-27 bracket and get some grunt in the midfield. Then we can survey where we are at and go from there, hopefully not with any more picks 1, 2 or 3...

Interesting that there's no flexibility with Blease. I clearly agree he doesn't have the tank to go all game. But gee, he is quick, can find the goals and would be a cracking sub 5-10 times a year. Not like he is holding a list spot away from some other star.

Holy Christ.

My view is you have to have something, the boundary line will always be grey and, as is the case with lots of areas of law, Courts have to do their best to decide whether particular things drop on one side of the line or the other. Plenty of stuff is almost impossible to define legislatively, but I guess that doesn't mean it should be dropped entirely. I do agree though that the word offend is pretty woolly. Stronger words like vilify are less grey and easier for everyone to interpret.