Undeeterred

Well yes, hence the reference to going in the draft. At which Freo will have one of the first picks.

I find the 'player owes club' argument hard on the basis that clubs draft players acting in the club's interests. It's isn't as if they're doing someone a favour - they are doing it because they think it will make their football team better. On that basis, I don't think players owe clubs anything just because the club was clever enough and ahead of the curve enough to find a player who was otherwise in relative obscurity.

At least you are consistent, but you are wildly overstating our power here. Regardless of the posts above from Wrecker, by saying nothing about staying, Jesse is clearly implying he wants to go. If we can't do a deal, and he refuses to sign long term, we have a massive distraction contract-wise next year right when we don't need one, along with a player who clearly won't want to be there next year, and who already exhibits poor body language when things go his way. This is exactly why Gold Coast want to get rid of May. It isn't worth the hassle. Even if Wrecker is right, a player who is torn is going to have a really hard time properly committing, if Freo refuse to give us a fair deal. He really has to go now, and we really have to take what we can get, all posturing aside.

Do you seriously think he hasn't??

Fairly drastic solution, but ok!

Whoever is driving this speculation, the die is cast in my view. He has to go - there's no way he can sign up to us with any credibility given how long he and the club have let this go on. He's definitely going.

Depends. Are you Jason Taylor?

Given we've had the same discussion pretty every year, I wouldn't get too excited about whichever journalist it was and their credibility. I could have written that article.

Points mean nothing to us. If Port want to get up to 4, they will trade 9 and 10. Simple as that. They don't care about how many points are in the balance.

You sum it up better than most, as usual!

I'm pretty sure Peter Caven left the club so he didn't make up with anyone. I could be wrong

Out of interest, are you saying that there's nothing on a footy field that would be chargeable? I'm not having a go, am genuinely interested. Where would you say the line is?

No, you're probably right. I lumped you in with McQ in a hurry. Not saying he does either, but saying 'I'm not condoning it but these things happen in footy' [paraphrasing] sort of does condone it by implying some level of striking is 'understandable'

These comments are predicated on the assumption it's ok to smash people anywhere. Why the need for a massive wind up punch to the guts? Or the arm? Or the c0ck? It's just irrelevant.

I just watched that close up footage again in slow mo. He's proper f**ked.

Broken jaw, regardless.

Australia isn't America. Victims don't get to choose whether to 'press charges'. Police do.

In my old-man midweek sporting competitions, I can tell when I'm just cruising through a game, or when I've made a conscious choice to run hard and play properly. Surely these blokes can do that by now - it's astonishing.

Lol. Apologies for basically repeating your post.

I definitely trust your gut instinct based on a shift job 30 years ago over multiple contemporary official and unofficial sources.

This.

Interesting. What often happens in a corporate setting like this is that when the bloke who has done the hard yards internally is passed over, he goes somewhere else to get the promotion. If you thought you were ready for a CEO role, and obviously got close this time around, why would you hang around for 10 years until Pert retires? There will be fallout from this, no doubt.

And Hannan when he goes in there. I cringed on Monday when he got stuck on his right and kicked it like I would kick on my left. Awful stuff.

Makes much more sense! LOL. Well, clearly no I didn't. Thanks for enlightening me though.

Dane Rampe, Jeremy McGovern and Rory Laird would be pretty handy in our backline right now. And Ceglar is pretty handy