Undeeterred

Yeah, but imagine them all at Hawthorn, too. I mean, you can say that about any number of teams.

Which is why I could never understand why we signed him up so early.

I know it is the deal, I'm not an idiot. But the 'deal' is just a construct, you can make a sport and a league work any way you want to. The last sentence is just your opinion. You might notice the EPL has pretty strong rights of ownership over players too. The only real difference is end of contract and I see no reason why players should be stopped from moving to the club of their choice, within some broad restrictions like not in the first couple of years, for example. That's just my opinion!

Blah blah blah Hilarious and one I hadn't heard yet.

Seriously? If so, LOL.

I think the main selection criterion is which VFL/WAFL/SANFL player is least hungover by this time in September.

He's got another year. Can you remember the last time anybody got paid out for a year? Shame. He was another in the long line of 50/50s that went the wrong way when the time came to really step it up development wise.

True, but entirely beside the point.

LOVE the avatar by the way.

Now that's more like it!

Why there is bitterness directed at Scully on this site.

None of what you have said goes even close to touching the reasons why.

Just out of interest, I'm dying to know what word you put in your profile under interests after 'chocolate' that got censored...

Good post, but I have to say, you don't exactly have to be Nostradamus to make that prediction...

That's a fairly weak and easy argument when attacking someone's opinion.

This. Absolutely this.

Terrible set shot too. Much better as a defender long term - he'll learn to tighten up and reads the ball beautifully. For mine, a ready replacement for Rivers.

In fact, what would be much better is to do what most other world sports do and give the players the freedom to move when they want to, within very broad parameters. The idea of 'owning' the rights to players and therefore holding them hostage is ludicrous. The idea of my employer being able to direct which competitor I can and can't work for is just laughable and I'm yet to hear a good reason why footballers should be any different.

Geez Collingwood are turds. They're perfectly willing to pillage our player who wants out for personal reasons when it suits, but when their own player wants out, they tell him basically to get stuffed and tell Brisbane he is worth more than a pick 4. http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/collingwoods-beams-in-bid-to-go-home-20140924-10lkmt.html I hope the karma bus drives straight over the top of the lot of them.

If what Machsy says is true, it probably shows a really clear intent from the new guard to properly clean out the old. It seems odd, but they didn't seem at all keep to stop Sylvia leaving and it is becoming more likely that they aren't trying too hard to stop Clark either. Perhaps in Frawley's case they thought a top 5 pick was better to use in trading in someone similar, who doesn't have the associated baggage (Jaksch or similar?)

Not sure why everybody keeps going on about Frawley's worth. It is entirely irrelevant. What is relevant is his age and new contract, and where our relevant pick sits. If we were at pick 10 this year, we'd get pick 11. It has nothing to do with value.

Another one who was surprisingly absent. Got a lot of potential but, also, another who has to fulfil it soon.

Really?? If you can point to one post when you mention that, I'd be amazed.

Really? How about something like - we'll only give you your money if you don't [censored] us over and go to another club next year? You can't make a player stay but you sure as hell can make them sit out a year - I'd be willing to burn a PSD2 pick to do it.

Would have been more use than Garland.... But exactly what you want from a rookie. Dependable depth when required.