Ouch!

http://www.3aw.com.au/blogs/3aw-sport-blog/lyon-to-remain-with-saints-report/20110913-1k7kt.html Listening to this, Lyon is to speak @ 11am tomorrow to his players, it doesn't say FACT at all. It sounds "likely" I'll admit, but it's not definitive. By your interpretation it is FACT that Scott Burns will be coaching Melb next year. (I hope that comment doesn't come back to bite me! haha)

.... feeling the same here, none of the Herald Sun guys have tweeted (pretty quick of the mark!) Foxsports hasn't mentioned it, SEN has nothing, heck I couldn't even see anything on Bigfooty Just this reference to channel 10 news announcement. Would have thought on a fairly slow Tuesday (after yesterday) not saying it is not true just nothing on any media 'bout it.

You would think so... I mean how could a player deserve nearly what Demetriou is on

... listening to SEN. So, it's a 6 yr deal. I guess the bigger the deal the better the compensation is for us (given it is based on his contract, the pick he was drafted, and his age) Really can't see how AFL could not offer the same compensation as Geelong got for Ablett (I don't think he is worth the same as Ablett, but the compensation rules have already been set last year.)

Damn. You are a sad individual. OMG RR you were right, you are fantastic! congratulations!!! Hopefully that fuels your ego for the next 12 months, now go and crawl back into the hole you came out of.

... pretty gutted, won't begrudge him from taking the money as it is a stupid, ridiculous amount to throw at a kid with 30 games behind him. I DO begrudge the AFL, and Demitriou though, the way they keep claiming they didn't make the rules and the clubs signed off on it is pathetic and weak. I also begrudge how Scully and his management handled it. Ward and Davis have a lot more respect out of their way of handling things than our "former" player did. GO DEES!!!!!

.... to Sydney, to check out their facilities. If he is seriously weighing up all of the offers then this should be expected. If he has already made his mind up to go then why would you go through the charade of a visit?

I agree,.. if your mate is friends with a GWS dev coach, then without the name of that coach these comments are next to worthless sorry. MFC has NOTHING to gain from this. If something has been decided on Scully either way, MFC would announce it ASAP.

Hmmm interesting, but a few questions... If you can't guarantee Malthouse this year... how can you be sure of securing him in 2013? (Circumstances change... hence the predicament Malthouse finds himself in now) If you could perhaps make this occur, aren't you putting Neeld into exactly the same situation as Malthouse is in this year? Ask yourself this, if you were going for the Senior Coach @ Melbourne, and they come back and say "Congratulations, you are the best candidate, how does 12 months sound? Cos we want to make a play for Mick in 2013." I really believe that if Melb, the Dogs or Adelaide cannot secure Malthouse this year then you look past him to the next best available option. You cannot put the development of your club and players on hold for 12 months in the off chance that he could have a change of heart after 12 months... So go for the best coach and sign them up for three to five years... Any clubs without a coach going into 2013 would be looking at Malthouse no doubt, just as teams may have approached Roo's this year. IF and obviously it's a Massive IF, you could bring about what you are talking about sure it would be great... Just cannot see anyone taking the job on for 12 months... Viney included (If Malthouse and Neeld agreed to it and were planning such a thing, man can you imagine Eddie's Face But it would be a pretty massive betrayal of the Pies and all your former colleagues.)

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If there is any truth to that article I love it!! Like others have said it's not really even about the likelihood of snaring Clarkson, but more about the fact that the MFC has the balls to try and rip a bloody good coach from another team in their prime with a compelling contract. Isn't that what we want this club to be seen to be doing???? If this is true then I don't have much doubt (i'd be 98% sure in fact ) that the MFC would be putting something similar in front of Malthouse's management, and others like Roos perhaps as well. Heck Worsfold might have also been sounded out!! We can afford to be bold at the moment, lets try and achieve the impossible, because if it fails then we have other candidates that will very likely to accept a senior coaching (Eade, Williams, Laidley .... and all the other assistants out there)

Fair argument, but 303 games, played alongside some great players in Lockett, Hall, erm Nick Daffy (kidding !!) but coached by Barassi, Roos, Eade. I suspect thats a fair pedigree... not to mention a premiership! It's all speculation here of course, Whelan is a hard nut for sure, but is still one of our "old boys" which is a little bit too close to home at the moment, I think our club should bring experience and knowledge in from what other clubs do and learn from them as well.

Perhaps as a mentor, but I don't think Whelan is coaching is he? I was trying to suggest that O'loughlin is actually pursuing a career in coaching. Not saying that Whelan couldn't do it, but: 1) the aim was to get a suitably qualified and capable coach who as an additional bonus could act as a mentor. 2) I like the idea of O'loughlin as I rated him as a player, 303 games, played at a team that was known for tough uncompromising footy, yet he had a good amount of flair, and tasted premiership success. I heard someone say a little while back that O'loughlin had the potential to be the first Indigenous AFL coach one day. I can't recall who or when or where it was even mentioned.... but again, it could be worth a punt, and I think our assistant coaches will be reassessed at years end so why not ?

I think I mentioned this elsewhere, and sure it might be a slightly left field option here: Maybe the club should look at getting a coach in like Michael O'Loughlin who I understand is very highly regarded at the academy/centre of excellence, and has coached one of the underage international rules teams I think). Not only could I see him being capable of being a forwards coach (something I personally feel he has a better understanding of than Josh Mahoney) but he would also be there as a mentor for our indigenous players in getting the most out of what they have. Please note I am not saying get an indigenous coach for our indigenous players, thats too simplistic a view to take, however take a serious look at Micky and if he is a capable the benefits could be two-fold.

What is possible is that the Coaching team that was there when the Hawks won their premiership a few years back decided to get together for a meal. I love optimism, but seriously

They should throw everything at Malthouse, Clarkson and Roos. Unlikely to dislodge them where they sit currently, but that doesn't mean you don't try your ar$e off. (We did enough "not trying" on the weekend.) After that, I like the look of Choco Williams, and Laidley. Williams is basically the senior coach for GWS at the moment, Sheedy is doing SFA there from all reports. I guess then you lower your sighted (in terms of experience and price) and consider some of the senior assistants elsewhere, Hinkley, Neeld, Sanderson, Gavin Brown.... Viney is probably someone that you would consider in this group too... Definately not keen on Eade. Can't put my foot on why, but I don't rate his sides as being hard, and uncompromising. One other point here is that whilst we are talking the Senior appointment, I want to see the MFC work equally as hard in securing the best quality assistant coaches as well?, why wouldn't we try to snag a couple of those mentioned above as assistants if we can?. Bailey took the fall for the players AND the remaining coaching panel should be feeling very insecure in their roles. Just for something different to the norm, I would actually be interested to see the MFC sound out Michael O'Loughlin be sounded out for a coaching role (not necessarily senior coach, maybe fwd coach) but I rated him as a player, and with us having a sizeable number of indigenous players on our list, it could be a shrewd move.

It's interesting that when people say that Garry needs to make a stand, people still assume that the only way that he can do that is as coach. He has stated constantly that he doesn't want to coach, but I do believe the time has come for him to stop being a background power broker and to take on an official role with the club in some form. Personally I think the role that he could take on would be something like Director of Football, it's the same role as Dunstall @ the Hawks,.... Jimmy currently is doing this, as I don't think we have many "football" people on our board currently. If Garry took it on it would allow Jimmy to focus on his health again, and the presidency. It shouldn't negatively impact Garry's Media commitments, either.

I read it as being 2 weeks (225ish pts), reduced by 25% for 5 yrs good behaviour (168ish pts) and further reduced by 25% with an early plea (125ish pts) So.... they can contest the charge and it will be still only be 1 week if they lose.