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    I'm just pleased I got on Roos @ $2.25 a couple of months back
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    Even without a couple of those players that you mention... it is still true that the core of experienced players were already at the club. Incidentally, where exactly did I stay that our list is so bad that it will take 5 years to sort out??, if you read what I said again, I said we have some very good bookends and a lot of potential... Experience leadership and hardness are things that our playing group are lacking,... My point was not that Eade isn't a good coach, it's just that people think that he built clubs up from scratch, and that the MFC is a different proposition to what he had to deal with at the Dogs or Sydney. Sydney was a mid table team, and the dogs were towards the bottom, but had still managed 5 wins for that season.
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    I question that he has built a club from our position before... Barassi left in '95 with 9 wins. Eade already had players of the likes of Lockett, Kelly, O'Loughlin, Lewis, Creswell, Roos, Kickett, Dunkley, Bayes... its not a wonder he got them to a grand final that following year. The dogs when he arrived in 2005 had West, Darcy, Johnson Smith, Murphy, Eagleton, Cross, Gia, Gilbee, Lake, Cooney, Grant to name a few... My point is not so much that he is not a good developer of players, and not a good coach, but it's perhaps worth understanding that he had the nucleus of a good team already at his club and on the list. We don't have that core group yet. We have some nice bookends and a lot of 'potential' but in terms of experience, leadership, and hardness at the ball we are miles away from those lists above.
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    So Sam Lane announcing that Hird is suing the AFL due to being denied Natural Justice.
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    unless your understanding of the situation is such that you knew you were not pushing things too the edge, but entering grey areas in regards to substances.
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    I agree with Demonfan26 Representative football is one thing I would like to see, and I think this concept would work, and the players are for it, but don't get all nostalgic about state of origin, I believe that concept should left as is. Dead and buried. Firstly it's putting the game up against the NRL game which I don't think we shouldn't compete with. Secondly Victorian's believe that they should have a side... but who to play against? SA? then you leave out WA... and the AFL won't agree to multiple games being played. You also have to think about the smaller states that still have very good players coming from there....?? leave that concept for the EJ Whitten match! and the under 18s carnivals. However an all-stars v indigenous allstars or some other model (more like the models used in the US dare I say) would be more successful IMO to re-introduce, not because we should copy what they do, but because it would be a new product for the AFL to offer to the public.
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    After listening and watching the press conference, I think Aaron misinterpretted what the reporter asked him about hanging up the boots for good. It might have appeared as though he was not ruling out going elsewhere because he didn't discount it 100%. But listening to Aaron, I got the impression he just wants to play out the year, spend time with his family, and will work out what happens from here with Josh Mahoney in regards to the role @ the club. After seeing some of the highlight reels it just reinforces what a great player he was for the club, the last couple of years have not been as strong due to injuries, but that goal against the Pies earlier this year just shows what he is/was capable of at his best.
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    I don't think there has been too much grumbling recently about the priority pick, and with all the big clubs going to the US on the AFL junket for equalisation I don't think we will hear too much if the commission gives us a PP. IMO a priority pick in itself will not change our fortunes... but it is a start. It would not surprise me in the least to hear that the AFL grant us a pick on the proviso it is used to draft in some experience rather than drafting in another young 18 yr old player. BTW I agree Barrett is being a tool.
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    Serial foot injuries? It's only 1 injury isn't it? they chose to pull the pins out early as they were causing irritation, and it's taken a little longer than expected to recover... but if he can be fit for the start of the pre-season I am glad they took the path they did for this season.
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    Hmmm dunno, He sounded like someone that has to weigh up his future, sure it didn't sound good, but he sounds like he has faith also in Peter Jackson. Will hold judgement at the moment, and if he goes, we should get currency for him, if he stays lets hope the new footy director and coach can get the best out of him. I will agree with the comment someone made above regarding why was he allowed on the show... it doesn't paint him or the club in a good light.
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    Probably not as silly as it sounds, didn't we beat them to his services originally? (Brisbane and maybe Richmond were very keen on his services)
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    ... or Clarko I can dream cant I? (please don't be Sheeds!!!)
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    I think looking at any of their players will be very risky whilst any sort of investigation is going on. With the players still a chance of being issued notices by ASADA (that won't come from this interim report but from the final report) and the appropriate privacy issues in place until such notices are issued. Isn't there a huge risk looking at ANY bomber who was at the club prior to 2013? Coupled with the fact that the bombers are notoriously bad to deal with during trade week anyway, I can't see how a situation like this would make them any better to deal with. Big no from me (until more is known) on the players! In regards to staff, I think I'm happy to let PJ, the new coach and head of the footy dept work out what they are doing. Don't see anything at the bombers that is worthwhile grabbing.... dust needs to settle first.
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    I must admit I have a different view. I was never expecting ASADA to get positive test results and nor would I expect paperwork to be in order for such an investigation. But I don't see why that means that the players should get off or be seen as innocent? Whilst I think the players are victims of a 'pack mentality' where there would have been a lot of pressure to sign up and do things because everyone else has done so... I am still very dubious of the fact that these players didn't think something funny was going on either. How more 'innocent' are these guys than Ahmed Saad really? I think they are all idiots, and the EFC has let them down very badly. If every players escape penalty here, I would be amazed, and ASADA would look like a joke to the rest of the world in my opinion. The AFL are conflicted in this because they don't want to damage their competition by suspending half the players, but if that is what it takes, it should be done. Melb Storm played a season without points, they came through it, why would the EFC and their 50k odd members be any different?
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    I seem to recall very early on in this saga, that ASADA/WADA don't need much more than circumstantial evidence, as lets face it if people are doing the wrong thing, why would you keep records? and secondly with the whole drug testing regime, the only concrete evidence is basically catching someone in the act, or a positive drug test. Since none of these can happen with this investigation, and it's ASADA/WADA's role to attempt to preserve the integrity of sport and 'clean athletes' they don't need to be seen to be giving 'benefit of the doubt' in such situations, and tend to be harsher as a result. Circumstantial evidence is often enough... I can't even remember the last time hearing a player/athlete EVER getting off lightly after being found guilty of taking performance enhancing drugs... unwittingly or not. This is the one thing that baffles me with this whole damn thing.
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    One extra pick wherever we get it will not make us a powerhouse. Be it Pick 1, 5 or 20. That said... a pick at the start of the draft would turn the fortunes of the MFC around faster purely on it's trade value alone. I still favour a mini-draft pick option rather than an actual pick in the draft. I think that gives us the best chance to trade with established clubs (Geelong, Sydney, Hawthorn etc) who might be prepared to let a player go if it meant getting access to a top line 17yr old and developing them in their system for a year. I think that Crouch and O'Meara have proven to be a big success due to the way they have been introduced into the AFL system, We all know how Hogan is developing, and Martin sounds like he will be a gun too. The AFL may have stumbled onto a very good initiative with the mini-draft concept, and I would like to see it continue... in the form of part of their equilisation strategy. and it starts with us!
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    I think it's more of a case that Roos has never been discounted by the club even though there was an advantage to letting the media run with that line. PJ and the coaching panel will still review everyone. I have a small bet on Roos as our next coach and I still have a gut feeling that this will result in a pay.
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    I think it says in one of the other threads (about compensation packages) that the AFL has cautiously approved an Alan Stockdale led ticket, it doesn't say much more than that though sorry.
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    I would also imagine that the people that Roos wants on his team have to think on the 'offer' from Roos, and by extension the club too and be able to commit as well. Hypothetically Roos might have asked Ling to come on board, Ling would have to give up his media commitments and put in place some management of his other business affairs outside footy. My thoughts are that trying to sound out potential coaching staff and people out of media spotlight would be hard enough as it is, so Roos playing such a non committal impression keeps the focus squarely on him at this point and not on what he, PJ and the AFL are trying to do. It's the classic illusionist trick of keeping someone focused on the distraction whilst the 'magic' occurs. I personally haven't heard what Roos said OTC, but if he isn't interested he would have said so, and even if he was talking to Brisbane or WCE he can quite easily close the door on the Dees and say no thanks. He hasn't said that yet, and therefore is still very much in the picture for the AFL and MFC until such time as he categorically walks away.
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    I think another reason he hasn't said he is interested could be that he doesn't want to be inundated with 3-4 offers to coach. If he said he wanted to coach, Brisbane would not honestly chose Voss over him, WCE with their resources alone could match/beat anything that we would put out there as well. I think Roos is looking at the offer on the table by the Dees, just like he would have last year with Carlton. The Dees role offers a very unique opportunity to him to build a list from what was a pretty low place, to build a culture within a club that has known very little success for a very long time, to shape the club and put the resources in place to see this work. Sure you might turn things around at WCE faster than here, but I don't think just getting a premiership cup with another club is enough to entice him out of what he is doing now. The chance to bring the Dees back from the brink to a big club in Melbourne again... to win a premiership at a club that hasn't won one for 50 odd years (just as was the case at Sydney) and to hopefully set a club up for a sustained period of time with a clearly understood succession plan. These are the things he would be considering ... sure the money helps too though!
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    For those that didn't hear what Watson said this morning http://www.sen.com.au/display-article/Dees-closer-to-landing-Roos-Watson/60376 Doesn't really say that much that we don't already know I guess. I think there is a link to the actual audio on that link too....
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    Actually no he didn't say that at all, the fact that several months ago he said no, and now he is actually prepared to talk to PJ says otherwise in my eyes. I would be amazed if he said ANYTHING definitive tonight. Primus said something definitive, Roos recently has been anything but that.
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