Demon Dynasty

Brayshaw pretty good at getting it and has certainly marked well. Unfortunately he tends to telegraph his short / medium passes which are intercepted far too often/easily leaving us exposed In the intercept rebound. He isnt alone here with intercepts but must be topping the charts. If this was any other team i doubt we would be even 10 points up with the number of turnovers and intercepts so far. Need to clear out the forward line a little and go more direct to Hoges/Weid with Jeffy crumbing. Hit Trac up on the arc if he gets free also

Roosy on MMM

~ Wondering if i'll make the station to gates and seat before game starts without an Ambo

So i think you'rs saying your not that confident Bob? Not really Chook. He is what i would expect a long suffering MFC supporter would be....oh...wait. i take that back.... you are correct!

Deemented i hope you have a very skinny neck. Im still wearing my 2006 version as the new ones are about as long as a giant hanky

Guess Its all relative as im running late after train cancellation and will probably get thru the gates about half way thru the first with the train doing about 10kmh thru Glen Iris etc. Gotta love Melbourne's amazing public transport system

Only if you aren't a WCE supporter George. Been on the right side of that count for decades now

Are you absolutely sure about that ET?

America your use of the term "mamby pambyism" in a thread about toughening up our hashtag is also a little frightening!

Whatever assistance we received Biff it pales into insignificance when compared to the bottomless pits that are GWS & the Suns. Set to continue for many moons from here as well.

I think the off season "Party" (Cough ?) is well and truly over for our Mr Watts. Hopefully back on Trac now. Would be better for the run and will be surprised if dropped. Wags & Tyson me thinks

So busy disposing all their possessions at such a high effeciency their was no need to retrieve the ball with tackles Trac

You can save your matches for the log fire Bobby. They will not drop a mini version of Fyfe after last week's outstanding debut

All players are continually developing Tickle. Some have more room for development than others

We have lost two defenders in Vince & Smith. Vince also drifts forward occasionally. Some are suggesting Kent but can't see who he replaces up forward? Then you still need two ins to cover the defensive outs. Wags & Pedders (if fit) seem like the logical replacements (although neither can kick goals from a hand off outside 50! ) Pedders can play either end though and might kick the odd goal a la Vince. He also hits the contest hard as nails. A handy in IMO if fit.

You don't think he is worth another week against the Blues Jnr? I agree he looked off the pace and there were a number of ordinary aspects to his game but might be worth one more week. The FD can also take another look in the magoos to see how Keilty and others (Pedders?) go this week.

I don't think O Mac is extending himself beyond what he is capable of R&B. I think what you see is mostly where a player is at at any particular point, form wise. Same applies to Weids and anyone else in the team. Although Weids did show something on the weekend i think both of these players are a medium term work in progress and are certainly not, at this point, regular lock in 22s. Each player's form (skills/awareness/ability to execute) may improve and take little steps up as the season progresses or it can also go the other way as we all know. If players keep their spots also by doing so it would be great for team balance and understanding (Vince!! ). But we now have a list where sub par performances over 3 to 4 week periods need to be weeded out (no pun intended) and IF listed players sitting at Casey are showing very good form, they get their chance to step up and "maybe" perform at a higher level and hopefully help the team get over the line etc. I just hope the match committee aren't fixed lock step, to continually playing their favourite based on "prospect" alone, even if they end up horribly out of form for weeks on end. Just play whoever the best "form" players are from Casey (and the training track) provided it's consistent stand out form at that level and can't be overlooked. And provided we aren't making wholesale changes which upset team balance and continuity. I don't care if it's Pedo, Frost, Hibberd (TIM SMITH!!! ) etc etc., provided we are playing our best "in form" 22 wherever possible whilst also ignoring the odd shocker here and there for those that are performing at the required/expected level (or above!) most weeks. Obviously all the match up, horses for courses aspects for game day need to come into the selection process as well.

I suspect you are correct Mo. Maybe a visit to Wiki needed ?

There should be a "dislike" button!!!

Couldn't agree more on that front Mo. However, clangers aren't only limited to disposals that end up directly in the hands of the opposition. According to Wikipedia (yikes!) .... The stat also includes.... Dropped marks or fumbles under no pressure , free kicks, 50 meter penalties and stepping over the line during a kick in. IMO stats alone should never be used to judge an individual's relative performance, especially most publicly available stats. However, i have no doubt some selective "key" non-public in-house (Champion stats) used in conjunction with viewing of the game (especially for review purposes) would be reasonably helpful in gaining an insight on where or how a player is performing (or under-performing) relatively vs player/s who might be performing a similar role in a similar part of the ground. Obviously a task best left to the experts who have the knowledge and access to these resources at club level. I would love to be privy to some of these review methods and what goes on game day, and the days following, including their use for review Monday. I remember SEN interviewed a chap who does this at a particular club one time and it was very insightful.

It's always best to view the game R&B and make your own observations as you have done. Stats can be deceiving, but without the luxury of watching it all again here's the Clanger stats for those you mentioned..... Lewis 6 (1st) Oscar 4 (equal 3rd with Trac, Melk & Nev) Vince 3 (equal 4th with three others) Jones 1 (equal 6th with five others, all on one only) No player had Zero clangers on the day

Sorry to hear that. Foxtel is probably the only option now which is how they want it i guess. Offer other options but make them nigh on useless

No match replay unless you subscribe to AFL or a Telstra customer now. Just the highlights on AFL website and this ..... http://audioboom.com/posts/5746454-highlights-melbourne-def-st-kilda.mp3?smartclient=1&stitched=0&el=www.3aw.com.au&pl=2&pv=4&uniquifier=673090

A F that's an excellent summary and particularly the part re Watts in the ruck for approx 5 to 10 min in the 2nd. He kept or neutralised the tap outs and with the ball falling in 'our' preferred radius we were able to get first use and finally started getting some clearances out of the middle. Big Maxy then followed suit and we took control from there. Mind you i really thought we were gone late in first. Still shaking off the battle scars of many decades past I guess, especially at Shitihad

That is some effort Dee!