Demon Dynasty

His first 3 weeks weren't too bad SF. Dropped away badly since. Neither have fired a shot so far.

Or one of the worst at doing our due dilligence? Need to apply the Edgar test on any potential trade...

He was one of very few (if any) who flew the flag when the Hawks bullied us last year. He showed real spririt that day, including kicking 3 very nice goals in the first. He at least gave a yelp. One of the bullying incidents on the day was at an opening bounce of a quarter (not the first likely the 2nd or 3rd), vision from behind the goal showed Stratton heading into our forward line after the huddles broke. He pretty much did a minor Dermy and pushed / shoved anyone in his vicinity including putting Fritsch on his backside. Hogan was right there and also received a shove in his shoulder after Fritsch went down, but he chose to do nothing and allowed Stratton to do his thing without fear of reprisel. He was the biggest most experienced forward standing right there and didn't give a yelp. That was also the match where he rubbed Stratton's head (i think it was him) after he dropped a simple chest mark coming out of our goal square. But guess what, he was playing in front and in the right position and still able to make an effective spoil on Hulk. Had Hogan worked anywhere near as hard that should have been him in front attempting the mark, not rubbing his head afterwards for dropping. But alas. No doubt he did some good work up the ground and was a fair player but certainly lowered his colours for team mates on the day IMO.

Was it Keating who said life wasn't meant to be easy OD? If so thats one of the few lines i can recall from any of them. Oh and the 'may God save the Queen speech' by old Gough. My immediate reaction to any political speech fest is to mentally or physically switch off. I would much rather walk, play or do anything with my dog, listen to some jazz / mood music etc than their ranting. If i have learned one thing in life it's that I'm a terrible multi tasker. Which is probably why my brain caved in after i got to the phone part!

? happens to me also OD...refresh button works for me sometimes ✌?

One left field theory ABG.... Possibly a confidence factor resulting from early scheduled games at the G? We often lose at the G early as our early games are 'usually' mostly played there in the first 4 to 6 rounds. Within that first 6 round block (approx) we obviously play a few 'away' games. We played one away, SCG in Rnd 4 for example, on a ground which obviously suits the post Roos designed player make up / game style...it is his old coaching stadium as we know. We notch up our first and only win there. Unfortunately we were straight back to the G and the losing (and as a result downturn in player confidence) starts again. Is it a coincidence we are 1 & 5 having lost all games at the G on a ground that doesn't suit post Roos? Had we played a few matches away at grounds that are more suited, and consecutively, ...say SCG, Marvel vs the Cats/Bombers, then off to the GABBA for example. Possibly win three in a row....confidence has lifted substantially on the next return leg at the G...improves chances of winning there earlier in the fixture. But we usually don't find ourselves at the more suited venues that often until later into the season (ie; roughly post Rnd 6) and by that stage we're behind the eight ball and confidence down big time. Confidence hard to regain. Easier to gain/retain when you string a series of wins together earlyish in those first 6 rounds. Playing at the G hinders and impacts our team confidence as the losses mount early. We win it back by playing / winning at more suited venues later into the fixture. Then win later at the G more often with confidence back. Something to consider.

My first time visiting the early threads here. Some fabulous posts but this one was up there OD. Talk about laughing out loud. I really think you need to reconsider and nominate. I'm sure you've heard the saying "never too old"

I know i already asked years ago OD and you declined ....any chance you might have had a rethink about a stint on the board!??

Yes

dee tox we are trying our best to be non-sensible panicky nuf nufs here and qualify this thread to be merged with the "sack everyone mega thread" and you come along and give us something sensible! Some ppl i tell ya

Cameron for the threepeat

Each to their own BAMF. Some of my all time fav bands have also written some shockers along the way. May have given the task to the wrong member!

I doubt we'll get much traction while so many top liners are out of form or out....but, this bunch has found the belief / form previously. Looking on the bright side... If we can get a fit Hannan, AVB & Lever back. Pruess in for a solid block without re-injury. Jeffy decides to fire up and work off / with Pruess. T-mac can start clunking some marks inside 50. Alot of ifs! But before that we'll need to get some real gritty guts it out wins behind us...starting this week against the Dawks.

Possibly the worst theme song I've ever encountered JD... whoever wrote it must have been watching a ringmaster entering the tent from the cheap seats. I chuckle every time i hear it.

Would much rather get off to a good start than come from behind most years ABG.

As I've said for the last few years, with our list and game style we will be much better off and improve our chances of making finals more regularly playing out of Marvel. P.S. our success at Marvel isn't coincidental IMO. Pre Roos era we were rubbish there. His view/impressions/experience prior coaching experience at the Swans on a ground similar in dimensions. Game style and list built around winning on that ground. Brings similar to the MFC. We start winning more often at Marvel as a result of similar framework, rebuild and 'type' of player recruiting/training and methods. The GABBA probably most similar in size as well. 100% win record albeit small sample. Is that just before the bye or all matches since Goody took over ABG? Goody inherited a style / list that isn't designed to go all that well on the much larger territory of the G, more success on SCG sized grounds. And that's how it's panning out. Stadium Dimensions: SCG: 155 x 136m Marvel: 159.5 x 128.8m MCG: 173.6 x 148.4m Optus: 165m x 130m Adelaide Oval: 167 x 123m GABBA: 156 x 138m Metricon: 161 x 134m Giants Stadium: 164 x 127.5m GMHBA: 170 x 115m

Unless we win both of our next two... If Misson & the FD have any doubts he isn't close to 100% just leave him out till the bye. Get him 98%ish or don't risk till he's there. Even if it means he takes the remainder of the year off in prep for 2020. Btw anyone know what's happened to Maynard at VFL level. Injured again?

Who was it that said "dream big" OD? The other I seem to recall was "reach for the stars". The MFC has to do something insanely out of the norm (for us) IMO if we are ever to get the ultimate prize and break the AFL's longest drought. Then again i have a much greater chance that the admins will rename this site 'FantasyLand' if they see my last post!

My three Disneyland targets for a future Demon Demolition and threepeat 2020 / 21/ 22 are... Tim Kelley Stephen Coniglio Jeremy Cameron

Actually I forgot Coniglio was their main guy who stood out against us last year and had an outstanding game in a losing side. Change of heart....I'm on board! ?????

Coniglio? We need class and finish regardless of who the player is. We aren't sitting at the top of the turnover king ladder by accident... Career Disposal Efficiency 67.4% (not super ugly but not great either) Career Kicking Efficiency 55.2% (bog ordinary). There is a much maligned MFC player, who while not playing as a genuine mid fielder, spends a bit of time through there on occasions. His 'career' kicking efficiency is better than Coniglio's! Overall disposal efficiency (with handball included) only slightly worse. Slightly worse than Coniglio this season so far though on both counts, having a really poor season till now (results reflective). Why would we want similar or worse kicking efficiency? Coniglio's results even worse so far this season... DE 60.1% (ordinary) KE 48.6% (worse than bog ordinary!) Red light for mine.

His career average Disposal Efficiency is above AFL average @ 76% (AFL average roughly 73%). Kicking efficiency also @ 69.6% vs AFL roughly about 68%. Also quite high given where he is playing vs peers playing a similar role i would think but just a guess. More an uncontested ball winner v contested at about 2 to 1. Might be just the tonic for our mostly inside coal face mid field. However, the above was mostly during a period of reasonable performance from the Swannies and his team mates. With things not so good for them in 2019 ...... Season averages so far... Disposal Efficiency @ 66.3% & Kicking Efficiency @ 57.8% both down significantly and both well below AFL averages. In particular kicking. A bit of extra pressure around the ball and drops right off maybe? Only 6 rounds in but that's a bit of a concern for mine. Draft light sitting on amber with that drop off.

Player / Team Stats Form Guide Rnds 4 to 6, 2019 vs Season 2018 Note: No hit outs to advantage included. Maxy likely to be No.1 for Rnds 4 to 6 otherwise

No more one paced plodders please. Off the mark speed and agility/ evasive skills needed, to assist in finding space, time to steady and deliver more accurately and/or finish running into goal. We also need some overhead contested marking beasties. We lost Hogan and add to this players out of form and no Pedo bear (not a regular i realise) vs last season. Our top 5 were taking about 7.5 contested marks per match last season vs only 5 so far. Might not seem like much but that's off 30%+. Team is down 14 places to 16th taking 9.3 per match vs 2nd only to the Eagles last season averaging 13.1 Again about 30% off. No Hogan and out of form Maxy (in the air vs last season), T-mac and Weids all impacting. No Lever either of course. We have also dropped 4 places in intercepts now sitting at 7th from 3rd last season.

That may be the case but that doesn't mean you aren't close to the mark LH. If i may also add my amature view to the over abundance of mid size player view/comment. IMHO that over balance is also bereft of 'off the line burst speed and agility/evasive skills'. All very one paced and straight ahead often leading to over use of handball instead of a balance, using more burst/evade into space with legs / run > resulting in a little more efficient disposal/finish skills, especially the ability to escape opponent and steady to hit up inside 50. Instead we are in tight congested space and finding ourselves using the shallow bail out far too often under pressure or 'perceived' pressure. Also does that imbalance then pressure us into overuse of handball which then lends itself to a self fulfilling game style that invokes more panicy handballs in close as players are generally closer to the contest, unable to work their way into space on opponent, especially space forward offering a forward release handball to gain yardage quickly vs mostly lateral or behind? Forward handballs more likely to start the overlap and run vs alternatives? At the mo we just dont link up / overlap / run often enough using this method. Result...too easy to defend > increased turnovers. Scored off more often as a result & less scoring from stoppages for us? The Cats seem very adept at doing this when they have their balance right and are in good form. Many teams unable to counter it effectively or for long enough during a match to win the tug of war. This wouldn't be so bad if we had a top liner CHF who could monster contested grabs or get ball to small crumbed. Having none of the either also doesn't help our inbalance/game style from mid field. Is this making us easier to cover and defend on the stoppage outlets? Most other teams, starting with the prelim Eagles (and a few lessor lights during last season who weren't quite as adept) have now worked us out? The data shows we are still up there with contested and clearances, only dropping off a little in clearance post the Tigers. However it might also be the improved pressure from the opp / their ability to easily close off and disrupt our outlets at stoppage due to our inbalance, causing the quality of those clearances to fall away vs last season. More turnovers as a result back to the opp. That weight of numbers sees them win their fair/equal share. Sees us chasing more often v last season. They are then able to clear/finish even more as they are fresher than us as the game wears on. Our guys still doing similar 'work' on the inside to last season but the finish more muddy and cruddy in quality? Having some real quality wingers to me is a 'partial' short term fix and at least 1 insanely evasive / burst speed insider (think Shiels / Ablett type...wishful thinking!). As a result of our inbalance the Opp in most cases (not all, at least those that have a quick / cleanish outside crew mopping up) win the inside / outside tug of war battle. In most cases we dont. Couple this with two key forwards who have had zero impact and aren't taking marks i50, especially contested, plus zero small speedy crumbers to mop and chase down/pressure. Our woes potentially fixable but also not, if ignored and allowed to fester. Are they only fixable via future clever draft/trades? On the surface it would appear that way for mine. If so the next question for me is how many drafts etc and what time line are we looking at till we balance out?