Demon Dynasty

Yes. You have to move heaven & a bit of earth sometimes to get what you want and obtain the ultimate prize. The top line clubs have been doing this for decades. Even the Bulldogs did it, once, and snared one! We are still in a window if alot goes right from here. Lets get it done Demons. P.S. not the greatest brain at any point...especially with drafts/trade details! Proceed with caution.

Might spoon it if Goody doesn't swallow his pride during the 4 day break and review/revamp the zone/press part of the game style plus recognize the need for speed off HB & placing our best ball users with a bit of pace out wide. If he does we can salvage something but finals are a bridge too far IMO as confidence is completely shot with most players. The situation is that bad many have moved into survival 'flight' mode disposal decisions ie; "Here you have it! Nah i dont want it, you have it back!". My amature look at it... It's time to go man on man for good chunks of a match and see who really wants it. Zone off only if we get our noses in front by a decent winning margin. The Ruck / engine room is the only aspect of our game that's showing any resemblance to 2018. Everywhere else is almost flat lining and on life support. Start with the engine room. But no major change. Just a decent oil change. A bit of burst speed / agility inside. Who? Can Tracc bring a little in place of Viney? If not who? Bit of Melk? But a massive 10 turnovers against the Tiges on Weds eve. Needs more time? Other issue.is.he doesnt defend / tackle. The forward line will only start to click once Pruess is back (98%+ fit) and Jeffy / Lockhart are at his feet with a bit of Jones in the pocket also IMO. Very small bursts in a mid field relief role only. The remainder on the bench (eg; approx 20% to 30% to keep him fresh). Who plays CHF? I have no idea but maybe T-Smith for a block of 3 to 4 matches In the hope he can eventually play out 3 to 4 quarters. If that fails maybe Keilty for a similar block. Weids is so far off AFL right now he needs a solid stint at Casey before his next recall once he finds his mojo. Hunt returns to HB for a decent block and see if he can get back to somewhere near 2017 form. We need more line breaking run and pace there. Forward craft / IQ poor at this point. Lockhart to stay and play deep sharing the role with chunk off the bench building up his tank and experience for a decent block. Some pace and good disposal needed off both wings via Salem, Fritschkreig, Melk and Harmes. Drill disposal skills for the remainder of the year. Whoever can't get reasonably close to AFL disposal levels (for their role played vs other AFL peers playing a similar role) is moved on at year's end. Hoping for a turnaround in skills, speed of ball movement, lime.breaking run, effective transistion off HB connecting with our forwards and manic defending / attack on the footy and ball carrier. Preparing for the worst.

Not at all. Apparently using the extended time off to audition for a place on the next "Biggest Loser"

Prefer Jeremy Cameron... Has the edge over Patton where it counts playing as a key forward (career averages)... > Marks inside 50 (elite) > Marks on a lead (elite) > Score involvements (6.4 per game!) > Goals (2.6 per game... elite). Finished 7th for average goals scored per game 2018 (just behind T-Mac) and presently leading the Coleman. Free agent. No brainer. Stats: Courtesy of AFL Stats Pro https://m.afl.com.au/stats/stats-pro#/Compare?playerIds=CD_I291821,CD_I293845&comparisonTab=h2h

Again....this all points to falling behind the eight ball vs other clubs, even stock ordinary ones like the Saints. Pert needs to instigate a full review of the FD at all levels including a possible assistant to help out Goody, sports science / high performance standards, the present state of the list and our trade/draft performance ASAP!! Bottom of the ladder from a Prelim appearance 6 months earlier is unacceptable and inexcusable and smells of amaturish/eyes off the ball standards creeping in post the Roos era.

Strength & Conditioning. Off the line speed also missing. Just my op but from what ive witnessed this season, the FD hasn't gotten our boys (the ones who had a full pre-season) to a level that enables them to compete with the best. We are getting matched with intensity around the ball (vs last season) by more teams, burst speed away from congestion (and direct opponent) and endurance running by most opponents in most quarters, the Swans an exception. The above issues masked somewhat on a smaller ground.

Eradicated diseases in the last 40 years Smallpox. Rinderpest. Poliomyelitis (polio) Dracunculiasis. Yaws. Malaria. Hookworm. Lymphatic filariasis. Those we haven't eradicated.... - NSC - MFCSS ...........

Bloody hell guys....toughen the hell up! We need every miserable hell for saken poor sod we can get cheering and screaming for our lot (ok so some are bound to be screaming in fright at our deplorable skills, i get that!). Even new borns will do. Probably make more noise than most supporters, can go all day with no let up, and no encouraging required!

Isn't that the ideal replacement for Jack? ☺ Maynard's skills inside aren't that bad. He will probably run as well through there as chunk would at this point...possibly better. Similar bombing also lol

It's a split second decision. If he didn't take him on half of D'land would be up in arms accusing him of squibbing it. Would take a goer in the team any day over someone who blinks. Hardly poor football. Just part of the game.

Melk was a turnover king on Weds night probbably as a result of more time in the middle. Would rather he plays HF pushing high (wide) and/or off the wing where he theoretically has more time / space to execute. One of our best kicks coming i50 also so wouldn't hurt. Maynard's the obvious direct replacement as an insider but are we better off bringing in someone with a bit more outside speed and run going to HF if Tracc is playing as the insider? Not sure there's anyone like that (in any decent form) at Casey

All good points Nash. Unfortunately the mob mentality takes over at times. The AFL may have brought this upon themselves to a degree with their 'Nanny State' response to the Ablett "Boogate" a fair last week. Bit of protest booing in there as well?

I doubt it. Contract talks are an ongoing aspect for all AFL players now and handled by player agents/managers allowing the players to focus on playing while their agents manage. Have to say the body language generally from the playing group isn't great. No "togetherness" at all apparent before the Anzac game during the ceremony. We played like it was every man for himself and they were all on notice. Haven't seen anyone fly the flag and push back for a comrade all year. Pure speculation and probably wrong but something just doesn't feel right lately. Is it just the rub off from such a poor start or is there really something more happening down at the Demon' s lair!?

They were supposedly booing the umpiring generally as well as the Pendles flop after some contact while bending to get a ground ball with a few minutes to go. I wouldn't have been happy either. If you watch the last minute the ball goes deep to the hot zone. Pie player (whose name escapes me) gathers the pill but is immediately tackled by one arm. Gets chicken winged to the ground and then illegally disposes the ball throwing it away with one hand. Free kick to the Bombers....ignored by 4 umps or all blind sided??? That same ball is then in dispute...another Pie player flops onto it and feels some contact from behind. Goes to ground...push in the back? ...called straight away. Time clock ticks down...point. 12 seconds to go....game over. The top 4 Vic clubs ( inlcuding Essendrug when they play us) dont get to the top by accident...

Has some footy smarts and shows some dynamic manic movement. Love the attack and instinctive way he takes the game on. Getting caught is part of the game, no problems with that as long as the awareness evolves over time and it becomes the exception. Give him at least 2 to 3 game blocks until he looks like he's ready to take on more. We need more of these types but taller, if theyre out there, to add some marking / intercept / spoiling ability, and manic gut running with some initial burst speed. The marking side critical since losing Hogan, Howe and Lever (till he returns).

We need to recruit/develop 6 or so at Casey who are pretty much ready made for AFL Sydee. That would help cover off some players who need time to go back and find some form and/or work on aspects of their game before getting a recall.

Again Loges if you can put someone forward on our list who can play a similar role near goal as Jeffy and is better at it right now im happy to give it a rethink. The way the bulk of this team is performing right now im pretty sure Jeffy will be getting a decent block of games from here. Let's see what he (along with and in comparison to the other forwards in the team) delivers. As I've said on many occasions since Prueee was first played out of the square against the Swans with good effect...Jeffy is a perfect foil for him when he's in. Playing them tegother in the same roles close to goal for a solid block of games will allow them settle in and get to know each other's strengths and weaknesses and gain some trust. The big bustling tall and the quick agile small of it will offer a great challenge to the opponents and their match ups on game day. Also minding an in form Jeffy takes one less speedster away from playing higher up the field and splitting us open in a more damaging part of the field on the counter. These are the little things we need to do to test and stretch out opponents and try and make the best of our own strengths. If i was a mid fielder i would much rather be directing my bail out kick under pressure to these two deep, rather than say T-Mac with Weids running into him at the hot zone with no quality smalls at their feet to gather any spills, then watching the opp smalls gather and run off on the counter connecting with my direct opponent on the sling shot over the top. Much more confidence kicking a mung ball to those two than anyone else (outside of Melk) at this point. And once our mids start gaining confidence that their bail outs are getting more results, their trust will grow and confidence in their own ability and game should follow. Confidence is hard to find during tough times...but once the fire is lit it can quickly catch on.

You will scar most younger players for life if they appear in many performances like last night. And if any have true talent they would most likely leave for greener pastures after witnessing that rubbish. Jeffy isn't interested in performing for Casey. If you asked him and he was honest i would eat my hat if he said otherwise other than to brush off the cobwebs after injury or biding his time for someone to get dropped if coming back from injury etc. He's not a rookie trying to make a name for himself in his first season or two on the list.

I know that but he's the only decent small medium forward that has the agility and evasive skills to create opportunities from scraps/ground balls and crumbs off our non-marking talls nearer goal (inside 30) and finish off good work up the field....occasionally. If you can let.me know someone who does this better who also offers the close down speed inside 50 to pressure? The highest i50 tackles in 2018 (averages). The No.1 non-Key Forward goal scorer of 2018 of those still on the list ...ranked 4th overall behind T-Mac, Hogan & Kent (average goals per game). The only player to lay multiple tackles i50 last night. While he may not be the Jeffy of old he still offers some weapons up forward until someone else fills the gap IMO.

My view OD is you never cull your spine, or best players, unless you have a ready made replacement sitting in the Macgoos or ready to fly in on a trade (having ticked all boxes before signing!). And they either need to match what you already had but with more years ahead of them (youth) or they are more than likely going to add something extra (more weapons). Hulk wasn't a KPF in the end. More a roaming tall high HF. But we recruited him as a KPF so yes I would have replaced with a quality genuine KPF if possible OD. He was heading home anyways so we needed to get some value while we could. May would need to make a very solid impact on return given the initial debacle. Our list management and one dimensional game style (with fixation on keeping it and recruiting coal face insiders...without any evasive finishing skills or burst speed) has come back to bite us big time.

Well put LH. I was strong on Watts staying for the the two redeeming features he had....the best delivery man coming inside 50 in the AFL AND he was a very good finisher in front of goal. Why you would give that up without having a solid replacement or two or grooming players that could do the job beggars belief Goody may have thought overwhelming amounts of rubbish bombing inside 50 would get the chocolates as long as we locked it in there often enough. Well other teams have unravelled that plan and we are now devoid of quality delivery. Watts wasn't irreplaceable by any means, but once gone we needed to groom both Salem and Fritschkrieg to the wings. Our two most accurate disposals by foot. Instead we've had both of them playing mostly down back...unable to impact with kicks inside 50. Nice work by the FD. Let the carnage continue! ????

Yes i saw that. Who knows. Victory has many fathers....defeat is an orphan. Maybe they were just mentally spent before the game even started.

He can do all that at Casey SW. Pruess out of goal square pls (if fit) with Jeffy at his feet. Do you return T-mac forward and drop T-Smith for Keilty (back)? Or leave T-Smith up forward and drop T-mac for Keilty?

Pruess for Weids (if fit). Decide on other changes after Casey plays. See if anyone puts their hand up. As a minimum we need to replace ANB whether injured or not. Very surprised he was called on for last night. By all reports he didn't show anything in the match before the under 18s fiasco. Makes you wonder where Goody's head is at bringing back someone completely out of form into a team where so many were already struggling.