Jaded No More

He presumes wrong. 99% of Melbourne supporters would know who he is. He played 2 weeks ago against Sydney.

So no Turner, or does Joshua Dawe not know who that is?

Because it allows Lever to play his natural intercept game, instead of worrying about playing on their resting ruck. He can help May against Curnow, who is probably the best tall forward in the league, and it leaves Tomlinson to worry about Pitonett or De Koning. The proof of our success when we play 3 talls is in the pudding. We rarely lose when this is the setup we go with.

It’s because a lot of opposition supporters are balding middle aged men with self esteem issues He is a dumb [censored], he’s also an eye gouger, talks rubbish and openly cheats on his partner. 0 stars.

He’s still an oily man baby when he plays and I still hate him and his club 😂

Laura proving to be, thus far, just another one of the corrupt boys. Really bloody disappointing. I was hoping a woman could set this pathetically backwards boys club on the right path.

I hate Hawkins the footballer, but he’s actually a genuinely beautiful human off the field. Much like May actually. He went above and beyond for my friend’s little boy when he was diagnosed with cancer (he’s a Geelong supporter). I’ll always be really grateful for how wonderful he was with him all the way thru his battle.

For me this has gone so far beyond the incident itself. It’s the pathetic love fest and obvious good guy PR for Maynard. The victim blaming of Gus. The vile carry on from not just gutless inbreds online, but the media who should do better but don’t. The lack of empathy and almost callousness in which this has been handled is what really upsets me. It does not matter if what happened was calculated, accidental, or anything in between. Somewhere along the way the footy world has lost sight of the fact that a young guy has suffered a really serious head injury that could see him retire, and are instead focused on the injustice of a player maybe missing a final. What the actual [censored] has football become that we only show care and empathy when it suits our agenda but pile on when it doesn’t?! How can some of these ex players and journalists look themselves in the mirror and be ok with their behavior? I wonder how many of them would behave like this if it was their own son or daughter who got knocked out.

That’s awful I’m very sorry to hear that. I think the reason people are so passionately angry about this, is because the consequences for Gus could be far more serious than just missing a game of football. No matter which way you view what happened, anyone who is a Melbourne supporter or even a half decent human being, doesn’t want to see a 27 year old guy suffer permanent damage to their brain.

Stop giving these people ratings. Turn it off.

It’s not about winning a hitout, it’s about making sure your opposing ruckman isn’t getting a free run. You don’t want their ruckman taking the ball out of the ruck unopposed.

I’ve really grown to like Toby Greene. He’s grown up and quite frankly he’s a superstar. If he played for a team someone cared about he’d be winning Brownlows. Dane Zorko for mine. I hate him with the fire of a thousand suns. I won’t name all the Pies players I despise because the list is very long. Moore and the Daicos boys are about the only 3 I don’t want to see suffer long miserable unsuccessful careers.

If no Grundy, which is expected, only ruck backup option is Smith. Will have to go with De Koning. God speed.

Nothing more pathetic than has been footballers who achieved absolutely nothing, coming out pretending like footy back in their days was much better because you could just go out and kill an opponent. Good on you and your slightly deformed brain thanks to all the head knocks you’ve suffered. Perhaps footballers in 2023 would prefer to walk away from the game with their own brains fully intact 🙄

They don't have one

Brad Green would be handy too. Could actually kick straight! This is exactly right. We abandoned the 3 tall defense set up which we know works really well, yet we were really good defensively against the Pies. Perhaps they felt that going shorter left too much one on one work for Lever to do, which reduced our ability to intercept. It was also one of Rivers' quietest games in a while.

Yes, there are already multiple lawsuits against the AFL currently happening by ex and apparently also current players over their mishandling of head injuries. Not to mention Gus' mother in law is currently suing the AFL over the exact same thing. If you are her lawyer, are you not having a field day with the idea that Gus could be called upon as a witness? Here is a perfect example of how the AFL does in fact not protect the head, but rather big name players from missing finals.

You mean more bad taste from the man who said it was a good day for the Collingwood football club while reading out a long list of racist behaviour his club was found guilty of for decades?

You're right, I don't think anyone should play like him, and nobody should be inflicting head injuries! It is the most horrific injury you can cause someone deliberately or otherwise. But nothing stopping us from playing outside the lines in other ways. Nobody ever suspended Cox for his vile physical attacks on other players. Twisting Trac's knee deliberately trying to cause hurt. When we meet them next, I implore Trac to do exactly the same to him. Gawn should also knee him in the ribs. Payback.

Tomlinson is slow. He would have played if McKay was not concussed, but he is a poor match up for Silvagni. Turner is actually a much better match up athletically. I too am a fan of Tomlinson and I don't see all the negative aspects that the FD sees, but he needs a specific match up. A lumbering tall like a McKay or a resting ruck. I actually thought he would have been a good matchup for McStay as an example. If we get through to Brisbane, he would need to come in and play, as against Daniher and Hipwood you need two true big talls.

That's exactly right. Good players nominate a club and off they go. Grundy will tell us who he wants to go to, and we will try to get the best possible deal for ourselves, while not actively trying to screw over Grundy because we are not Essendon. We will get it done, but it will be on our terms, or we will be happy to keep him.

No point for the club to say anything. Just go out on the weekend and play the same way Collingwood does, then present the evidence so our players walk free.

The reality is that winning flags is bloody hard. Winning multiple flags in a short period of time is even harder, it's why so few teams have done it. You need absolutely everything to go right to win a flag, and unfortunately after a great run in 2021, a lot has gone wrong since. I think @Chook rightly pointed out that as a fan base we are tired. We have been through more than most other supporters, and we are finally a competitive club, so for things to work so badly against us at every turn is a really bitter pill to swallow. It's also human nature. It's the hope that kills you! But as @Grapeviney so perfectly summed up, we are a resilient bunch. We have broken membership records every year for just about the last decade. Our attendance numbers are strong. We are passionate as they come. It doesn't mean that we don't hurt, that we don't feel angry when there are injustices happening to our club and players. I look at clubs like Geelong and Swans. They get the best armchair rides in the competition, and even they have only managed one flag in the last decade. To be here now, top 4 three years running, still in the hunt, and with a flag only 2 season ago, is a privileged position, but it's also one we fought harder to achieve than most. To say we struggle under the weight is simply not true. We've played plenty of big games and delivered. We've equally played big games and lost. Which club hasn't? Just look at Brisbane and Port. So many top 4 finishes, so little to show for it in the trophy cabinet. Likewise Geelong until last year. It's a tough competition.

Nothing we as supporters say or do has any impact on how the players play. Sure, a big turnout and loud crowd support is influential and helps teams, especially with favourable umpiring, but nobody at the club gives a [censored] how [censored] off or otherwise our supporters are. They play for one another and they are very good at blocking the outside noise. I worry far more about how defeated they are when one of our players goes down with an injury. The care they have for one another is wonderful, but it’s also been detrimental to outcomes of games.

I’m shocked 🙄