Jaded No More

Come on, keep up! A long-term coach, will get time to develop his list the way he wants. Trade heavily, draft heavily, etc... A short-term coach will use what he has, maybe recruit some experienced players, and go all out to try and win a premiership. Of course neither path guarantees you a flag, but Sheedy won't be in for the long haul so he won't be looking to the future. Clubs are always rebuilding, but there are varying degrees of that. If we think we're capable of winning a flag with what we've got, give or take a few players, than we should look at Sheeds. If we think that we need to go through a heavy rebuilding phase, then there is no point getting him.

Hope Belly comes up this week! Our backline is really lacking in class without Rivers and him.

I'd take Sheedy, but it really depends on what the board is looking for and what their review found. If we want a short-term coach who will bring immidate success, you'd have to look at Sheedy. If we want a long-term coach to keep developing our list, Sheedy isn't the answer. He won't spend another 27 years coaching. At best, you'll get 3 years out of him, in which time he might win you flag, or you might sit on the bottom of the ladder and achieve no progress.

Have you got any TOG stats? I've looked everywhere but can't find them. I don't necessarily disagree with what you're saying, but if winning our B&F is about getting a lot of the ball, than Ward and Nathan Brown would be killing it (as well as killing me with their disposal <_< )

He's eligable. It's a disgrace if he doesn't get a nomination before the end of the season. It means [censored], as he won't win the award, but some recognition for his great work in a terrible team, would be nice!

We should play Robbo on Fevola, Davey at CHB, Carroll at FF, Newton in the ruck, and bring on whoever else is on our senior list who is yet to play (Weetra etc...). Rest White, Neita, McLean and Jones. Put Ferguson at CHF, Miller on the wing, Ward in the midfield, and play 'run and carry'... the other way! :D I'll be at that game, hungover from the night before no doubt, and it'll make for some very humorous viewing!

Which is why he should take the rest of the year off! He is not needed this season, and he shouldn't be made to play alongside the embarrassment that is our team at the moment.

The man is a champion and deserves to captain us in our 150th season. Loved his comment about the mark. I think he was trying to nicely imply that Robbo is a bit fatter than Juice

If we're being serious, only Jones deserves votes. However, when you have to find 5 other players, you start scraping the bottom of the barrel, giving players votes because they chased hard, or simply because they weren't incredibly bad. It's a sad state of affairs. Juice does deserve a point for that screamer though

I'd replace Sylvia with Jones or Bell. Sylvia needs to concentrate on getting his body right, before he is even considered as a leader.

He wouldn't be the worst choice, put it that way. While I can't disagree with Carlton's decision to sack him, I also don't see any other coach doing better. The fact of the matter is, they are horrible, plain and simple. No other coach could do much better in the near future. I think they'll take Voss. He is a good fit for them, as if he fails, the punters will blame the list, if he succeeds, he's a miracle worker.

Are you cheating on Sylvia?

Not sure if this is the right thread, but I need to air my frustration with Jeff White. He is not the slowest player in the team to dispose of the ball? Just get rid of it Whitey... by the time you make a decision, the opposition have zoned-off or manned-up. It's incredibly frustrating. I'd like CJ to be played as a crumber up forward, and Belly (if fit) to replace Ward down back ASAP! Wouldn't mind giving Warnock a game either.

Yes he can, and he's almost a certainty to finish in the top 3. Reward for effort if nothing else. He is on the bottom of every pack, every contest, every week.

Damn straight. We have so many senior players not pulling their weight, who can't kick, are not accountable for their opponent and show incredibly poor leadership, and yet they get a game ahead of someone like Dunn who has done everything that has been asked of him this year, including learning a new position. I expected Neita to pull out before the game, and Dunn to play in his place. I'm furious that they dropped him. Absolutely rubbish decision.

Can hardly blame Frawley. Firstly, Corey Jones is not his ideal match-up. Bell would have gotten the job if he wasn't injured. Secondly, how about some encouragement for the kid, who has played less than 10 games. He is getting big jobs each week, and taking it in his stride. Jones had too much pace for him, not to mention the service he received from the Kangaroos' midfield. Frawley has what it takes to be a very good player, and he will be a very good player. And it's games like today, when he struggles and is made to play out the entire match on a very good opponent, where he will learn the most. Playing on sub-standard opposition in the VFL won't fast- track his development the way playing in the AFL will. He won't always beat his opponent, he'll probably struggle many more times in his career, but it's all part of a learning curve. Robbo and Neita should be given the rest of the year off. Neither are fit, neither are helping our cause. And welcome back Moloney. Did some excellent things and proved that he is nowhere near gone, just because he's had a minor set-back with his OP recovery

THAT WAS AWESOME! Worth going to that hole of a ground, paying $20 for parking and watching us get spanked, just to see that mark. He has the making of a very special player... now someone go put it on YouTube!

Was it the same people who said that Pagan was sacked?

Dunn out?? I suspect a late change. But great news to see Moloney back!

When you sack someone who has won 6 premierships in 10 years, you deserve 40+ years of bad luck! Congratulations to an icon of the game, and a legend of the MFC.

Kiss of death? :D

My point wasn't directed only at you. It just happened to be the last post I read before I posted, so I quoted you and used some of what you said as an example. I wouldn't need to read your posts to guess that you're not advocating for Connolly to be our next coach.

I'll raise you... Is Melbourne's list full of talented players who go missing when the heat is on, can't win the contested ball in a tight situation, and lack leadership? YES! Fremantle's poor discipline both on and off the field also reflects on Connolly. He lets the players get ahead of themselves, and their egos get the better of them. Sounds very familiar...

He has completely lost the plot since leaving Melbourne. His judgment has always been suspect, but he was relatively well behaved while playing with us. He has gone completely downhill since, which is a shame because he is a very talented footballer, whos career now appears to be over.

Exactly what I was thinking. He better not be coming back through the VFL or I will crack the shits! Good in's so far! I'm going with: In: Neita, Green Out: Davey, Garland