Jaded No More

AND 21! What I want to know, is how will Collingwood top this offer?

True, but IMO Frawley won't be a stinker, far from it. That's exactly why I don't want to lose him. I don't want to lose either, just to make that clear.

I should have probably said "GOOD KPP don't grow on trees". The point is still the same. Petterd may be a great player, but if Frawley ends up a good key defender, he'll be more valuable than Petterd in the long run.

How many of them have been good?

You can be sure that before he announces a club, be it Melbourne, Collingwood, Carlton, Melbourne Storm etc..., he would have spoken to West Coast. If he says 'I want Collingwood' tomorrow/Tuesday/Wednesday, he IS going to Collingwood.

Can everyone just remember one thing, the deal may be done, but Judd still hasn't said he wants to be a Demon. If that doesn't happen, these trades are all irrelevant.

Maybe we can on trade Jolly and Robbo to the Dogs for pick 5? Dogs are chasing Hudson, but Jolly is younger.

Can you tell us a bit more about where your mail is from?

Someone of BigFooty who says he knows a Melbourne board member, has said that the deal involves TJ and Miller to Sydney for pick 11. He said this yesterday, before Ch.7 broke the news. That seems like a bit of a dream deal.... except I don't want Jolly! <_<

That would be so typical, wouldn't it? Lots of hype, but we miss out in the end... SOMEONE MAKE IT STOP!!!

If Judd chooses us, and that's a BIG if, I'd rather keep Frawley. KPP don't grow on trees.

It's really not. VCE is just another mark. It's a number and it makes little to no difference to the rest of your life. Take it from someone who was told constantly that VCE is so important. It's NOT! Do the best you can and enjoy year 12, it's one of the best years you'll ever have.

I'm a realist. There is no way a smart, educated, professional athlete would choose a club based purely on his childhood fantasies. It just does not make sense. I'm not saying that this is all we have to give him, but certainly Collingwood can give him as much, if not more than we can. This is why I think Melbourne supporters, more than any others, are so emotionally invested in this Judd thing. Because to get someone of his talents to our poor, struggling, forgotten club, would be an enormous achievement and one that could very well change our future. For some reason, it seems too good to be true.

Nope. I'm just trying to make sense of it all. I don't know why respected media people (yes ok, calling BT and Hutchy 'respected' is pushing it a bit) would be making such strong claims unless they knew something. It makes sense to me that Judd would want to play for Collingwood, however if he met with 4 clubs, 3 big rich clubs and one poor struggling club, and has narrowed the field down to one big rich club and one poor struggling club, you have to wonder why the poor struggling club is still in the mix? Maybe it's because we can satisfy West Coast more than the other clubs. I don't know.

No concrete evidence, but so many rumours about Melbourne. You have to wonder where they all come from. For example, why would BT make such a strong comment on radio this morning (I heard him, and he was very very positive), if he didn't know something? Given that he is working with the Pies, and risking his reputation somewhat, what reason does he have for stating that Melbourne and Judd are pretty much a done deal? I know Steve Harris has told the media that nothing is known and that he has told our players the same, but there is every possible chance that Melbourne does know but are keeping it private due to Judd's request. We are not a club that 'leaks' information generally. However, where there is so much smoke, there is usually also a small fire burning somewhere. But as you said, the information you had at the start was solid enough and suggested that Judd wanted the Pies. It is entirely possible that after speaking with West Coast, and speaking with Melbourne, that he's realised that going to Collingwood is going to be very difficult. Either way, I think he knows and I'm hoping we know soon too. The rumours are doing my head in!

You do some silly things when you're desperate. That place is pure evil, but I just can't get enough! <_<

I'm with you. Heart says Melbourne, but head says Collingwood. However, I think Collingwood have major trade issues with West Coast. Hopefully Judd is happy to go to either club, now that he's met with us. Deers, I think you'll find that Hannabal is not making up [censored]. I'm not saying you are, but he isn't either.

I've especially put off all plans tonight so that I can get some work done... maybe I need to also throw my laptop out of the window for that to happen! I don't know what's worse, the fact that I'm going to fail, or the fact that I've taken to reading BigFooty to get some news...

The only reason why I wouldn't trade Rivers, not even for Judd, is because finding tall defenders with such a great ability to read the play, is harder than finding very very good midfielders. Judd may be more than a very very good midfielder, but our backline is not exactly thriving. Take Rivers out and you're left with the crud we had going this year. We must keep Rivers. He and McLean are my only untouchables, with Jones and Bate close by.

This is terrible on so many levels, especially because I have to be at work tomorrow where I have no internet or radio access. How would the sportsbet rep. know where Judd is doing btw? I still don't know where all these Melbourne rumours are coming from, so I guess it is completely possible that Judd will indeed announce that Collingwood are his choice. The sooner we know, the better. This suspense is eating away at me!

Good on Geelong, but to be honest, the only thing I can think about right now is that I will never experience this sort of thing with Melbourne. I hope I'm wrong! Congratulations to Geelong and it's great to get the cup back to Victoria.

It is NOT worth losing Rivers for Judd. As much as I want the Melbourne rumours to be true, I hope this one is completely wrong.

They run with it like Ben Cousins on a night out? I'm officially out of lame analogies.

After all this hype today, not getting Judd would just about destroy the soul of all Melbourne supporters... if the last 40 odd years haven't done that already! I still don't know where all these Melbourne rumours have come from. It all seems to have started from the $25,000 bet. That is hardly a cause for celebration, but as soon as the media get a hold of something, they run with it like a fat kid with a box of chocolates. Judd must surely know where he wants to go, but is probably keeping it under wraps until after the GF. Damn you Judd for not being an attention seeking tool... damn you!

While your post is brilliant and I loved reading it, I'm thinking that we need to take a step back and calm ourselves down. The media may be all over this "Judd to Melbourne" thing, but there is nothing to suggest that this is any different or more credible than the previous "Judd to Club X" rumours. Nothing is official, in fact, does anyone know if Judd has left hospital? Has he spoken to his manager? Has his manager spoken to the clubs in question? At the end of the day, we are all desperate for information and when it's positive, we buy it, and when it's negative we dismiss it. Don't believe anything until Judd or Connors or Club X officially announces something. That may not be until the end of next week, so we have a lot more of these rumours to get through first.