Moonshadow

That's not true Sue. I do not have a hairy chest. And no one has said we will build a winning culture based upon picks 60 and beyond. GWS are a start up franchise, with no list to begin with. The AFL have been very generous to us with cash, personnel and have given PPs in the past which, of course, we've stuffed up. After reading this thread, anyone would think we are hinging our future upon being gifted picks 1, 2, 3 and maybe even 4. Too early.

Yes. I have seen some change and improvement in our game since last year. As injured players come back in, we will start winning some games. It's too early to slash wrists and seek PP charity.

Only a fool would not understand that on a PP thread people can have views against being given a PP. Stop acting like the internet police and listen to alternative views occasionally.

And so three rounds in, it's been decided we are finishing last? Is that what I read from many on here? What a bunch of defeatists. And many thinking we'll get picks 1, 2 and 3. Even pick 4 for Dunn compo! As if. Need to get off the draft pick drug fix and back to the real world. I'd be happier if we had one 1st rounder and finished 14th. Careful what you wish for. Rather than prop up our incompetent past, the AFL might do a Fitzroy on our future.

Pure gold.

You are too ambitious for your own good Hampton 22. Stop shooting for the stars.

Bugger. Big loss. I wish him well in the future, health is far more important than footy.

We won't be winless, but I get your point red.

That cleavage and Bitty's fauxhawk are a match made in Klingon heaven.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/carlton-powerbroker-bruce-mathieson-declares-blues-recruiting-worst-in-afl/story-fni5f5nx-1226857436159 "Mathieson, a former club director, has gifted hundreds of lucrative poker machines to Carlton and remains an influential figure at Visy Park. His nephew, Craig, sits on the Carlton board."

Spencil has definitely improved in his time at Melbourne. He kicks a lot better now, has a big frame and goes in for 2nd and 3rd efforts. He does need to take more marks around the ground, particularly contested. Mummy is a physical beast, has a point to prove in swapping clubs and is playing very good footy ATM. He has Giles and other big guys to support him. Yes, they had a field day. In an ideal world, Spencer would be playing as 2nd big man, but Jamar is an injured dud and Gawn is young, injury prone and similarly inexperienced. Should we trade for an proven, experienced ruck at the end of the season, as GWS did for Mummy, then Spencer would be worth developing further.

I bet PJ wishes he hadn't told lapsed members to watch the first 5 rounds and then judge us.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing Sassy. I'll take a stab and say on the bottom of the ladder.

Come on guys, Bruce Matheison said Carlton's drafting was the worst over the last 10 yrs by far!

I'm wondering if Roos is shaking his head in private at the enormity of the situation.

As much as many here dislike Vlad and his lieutenants, it could easily be argued they have given Melbourne more than enough handouts and chances to rise up the ladder over the last 7 years without turning a complete blind eye to some pretty obvious indiscretions, eg, t@nking. Vlad was essentially correct, we haven't stood for anything in a long time. If it wasn't for the TV rights deal requiring 18 teams, we'd probably be gone or moved elsewhere by now. A new CEO at the helm of the AFL, perhaps one with less sympathetic views, might want to put his/her stamp on the competition by further changing the 'national' game. Tassie Demons and/or Canberra Bulldogs might not be so far fetched. We are hanging on because of generous AFL handouts and pokie revenue. Lose one of these and we are stuffed.

We need a handful of trail blazing players........badly!

5 would be ambitious. 2-3 more likely.

Name change would be the last on the list of things that need an overhaul.

Geez, Kelly looks good.

Hmmmmm....... Coll vs Geelong tonight. Where is Geelong's clash stripped it would be of use?

Hands off! Feel someone else.

I'm glad you changed your signature Bitty. It was beginning to creep me out.

... and most have neither a roof over their head or the top of their mouths.

Saw Dom Barry's name on emerg list. Is he getting a game? Like to know how he trained if anyone went. Thanks.