Moonshadow

No he didn't. He made a joke of how his mum reads everything on social media and it makes for an interesting tuesday family dinner. He said watch out cause she'll hunt you all down, partic Demonland4276 It was clearly a joke

Of course. Who is it though?

Everyone was poor in our last game. Not everyone was as good as Lewis the two games before. It's easy to cherry pick individual games

And yet he was amongst the best in the 2 finals we won. Funny how we only see what we want when our eyes are half closed.

If he stays it may explain why we asked the AFL for permission to trade next years 1st round pick, which goes some of the way towards potentially getting May and KK.

St Kilda offering Shiel $8m over 6 years according AFL website

Who wasn't?

Both 1 and 2 were shouted down about a month or 6 wks ago. Some children demanding the thread be closed, others claiming trade scenarios were a waste of time as he was 'settled'. The usual suspects telling us what we are allowed to think. There was some good discussion on what his value might be both on our list and as a trade. I'd like him to stay, but understand now is a good time to maximize trade benefits if he is open to a move. He's a quality player, but we have the ability to significantly improve our list should he go. Doubt we'd get 2 x 1st rounders next year, certainly not when he becomes a FA.

If he plays well through the season filling an outside need and we win the flag, I'd possibly be happy to see him on $1.5m. I see him as complimenting our list very well and making immediate significant impact (not with fists) Alas, we cannot see the future...

If Gaff picked us and WCE chose not to match, would the realisation that he's cost us no picks/trades ease the shock of what we pay him? Are we prepared to offer $1.1m for 5+ years knowing he came without sacrificing picks/trades? Or are they completely separate considerations? What do us supporters think? What would the FD think?

Has Essendon written all over it

I've mention the similarity before. Stuie-lite. Edit. Are you talking about Wise? ?

Maybe you should offer some of that to Wise, he could do with a chill out session with you Wolfy!

Matty Lloyd on trade radio thinks he's better suited elsewhere and will struggle to get games at Melb next year.

I'd be seriously disappointed and surprised if we got those picks and didn't on trade at least one, if not both. 6 + 34 for May and KK would be ok with me. Maybe swap of later picks as well. I'd even go 5 + 2019 1st rounder for Kelly on top of that. In: Kelly, May, KK, Preuss, 2 x 3rd rounders (Kent, AVB), Toby Bedford (use 2 x 3rd rounders) Out: Hogan, pick 34, 2019 1st rounder, 44 (Preuss), Kent, AVB Aroused.

Also speaks very well

I agree with you Wise. Seek help.

Can you now give me a quote directly from Hogan, Goodwin or the club where they state he 'wants out' as opposed to reported that "it is believed"? Or have you crossed over into the dark arts of speculation and rumour Wise? If so, welcome aboard. What took you so long? ?

+ 1 ?

Two weeks ago on this thread posters were declaring Hogan as settled into Melb city and used Goody's comments as proof he was happy at the club and in the city. They hounded alternative speculation demanding the thread be closed. Now we are openly saying he was never really settled here and inferring he never really bought in. With little to no actual confirmation, it's a matter of grabbing what we can as he supposedly leaves. We're a fickle bunch!

Time to switch to mustard

You seem to be very well connected this year Red

Oh no Bub, we shouldn't be talking about it because it's never going to happen and he's settled and Goody said so. Therefore CLOSE THE THREAD!!! I have serious concerns for some of you supporters... ?