Moonshadow

Is Kelly a FA next year (excuse my ignorance)? If so they'd be better trading high for him now rather than getting 1 pick as FA compo next year

Maybe, not convinced though. I think clubs look at points value of picks to balence up trades. This is where swaps of later picks comes into it. The gamble comes with future picks, because clubs are hoping they don't drop down the ladder significantly. This worked for us in our Lever future 1st rounder. Personally I think the club would want May and a 2nd rounder for pick 5. But we shall see soon enough.

Wouldn't it be delicious if we traded for Kelly this year and beat Norf to their intended punch next year!

Doesn't make sense. The pick number isn't critical but it is critical in a trade? If the pick number isn't critical, we should offer pick 78 for Shiel. That'll get it done, right? Of course pick 5&6 are more valuable than 10&16, regardless of whether we trade them or use the in the draft.

Hopefully in this case he was front ended and his contract next year is for $2.50

To be more accurate, we paid 2017 pick 10 and probably 16 this year plus late pick swaps for Lever. A bargain IMO.

Stef Martin has, up close!

Happy for trade of Garlett for pick 50 as well. Pick-anything actually

Agree, but would want a high 2nd rounder (i think they have 23) as well as Kelly for two high 1st rounders. Or swap of our 2nd for 23, ours likely to be about 33 or 34. Kelly +23 for Hogan? Where do I sign?

Gee wiz, anyone else now glad Jason Taylor, Todd Viney and Josh Mahoney would have done their due diligence weeks ago and assessed Hogan's trade value?

Many consider other mids better to target than Shiel, especially for the trade picks and contract amount he'd command. Tend to agree.

Very interesting development, Luce

Not even if Max dropped in for a beer and a dart?

It might make Gaff's decision difficult if we got to within 100k of Norf's offer. Freeing up 800k by trading Hogan could help this

Yes, quite right. Forget he was a FA

Contracts mean little in AFL. We can use him in scenarios if we choose, just like you can choose not to tell us what we can think

Especially given Hogan is contracted for another 12 months. If he wasn't, we'd probably accept less Doubt we'll do a Dodoro and ask for the farm, but Cerra plus a high pick is reasonable IMO

Didn't Adelaide get pick 9, 28 and Dean Gore for Danger and a late pick? If we got similar for Jesse there would be a riot in the Long Room

Will there will be a lot of young Dees fans with no 1 on their backs crying soon?...

I was led to believe Jesse was a huge Crows fan growing up

Yeah, I got a couple of pm apologies out of that one, but none out of SWYL, of course. Too busy waving his hands in the air being overly outraged about something that never happened! "Simpson should be ashamed for giving Gaff 4 votes!" Hahaha! Don't want Hogan to leave, but if he does there will be lots of hissy fits on the trade board and lots of humble pie to be served!

Lever cost us pick 10 and pick 15 or maybe 16 (after FA compo and Academy/FS matching), plus a swap of late picks. We got a bargain IMO. Hogan may not have a bad knee but he missed a whole year due to bad back and now he has issues with foot nav bone, which is nothing to sneeze at. For Hogan I think we'd more likely get a high first rounder (6) and maybe a future 1st rounder, or if pushed, a player such as Langdon. But it wouldnt surprise me if it was a1st and 2nd rounder only.

Er, why? I sure as he'll know you, Bub and I will be dishing up some humble pie on the Trade Hogan thread should he be traded to Freo!

See Toby Bedford thread

I recall someone saying that he turned up at half time for one of the home finals games. Can't remember details, so grain of salt.