Moonshadow

Maybe you should offer some of that to Wise, he could do with a chill out session with you Wolfy!

Matty Lloyd on trade radio thinks he's better suited elsewhere and will struggle to get games at Melb next year.

I'd be seriously disappointed and surprised if we got those picks and didn't on trade at least one, if not both. 6 + 34 for May and KK would be ok with me. Maybe swap of later picks as well. I'd even go 5 + 2019 1st rounder for Kelly on top of that. In: Kelly, May, KK, Preuss, 2 x 3rd rounders (Kent, AVB), Toby Bedford (use 2 x 3rd rounders) Out: Hogan, pick 34, 2019 1st rounder, 44 (Preuss), Kent, AVB Aroused.

Also speaks very well

I agree with you Wise. Seek help.

Can you now give me a quote directly from Hogan, Goodwin or the club where they state he 'wants out' as opposed to reported that "it is believed"? Or have you crossed over into the dark arts of speculation and rumour Wise? If so, welcome aboard. What took you so long? ?

+ 1 ?

Two weeks ago on this thread posters were declaring Hogan as settled into Melb city and used Goody's comments as proof he was happy at the club and in the city. They hounded alternative speculation demanding the thread be closed. Now we are openly saying he was never really settled here and inferring he never really bought in. With little to no actual confirmation, it's a matter of grabbing what we can as he supposedly leaves. We're a fickle bunch!

Time to switch to mustard

You seem to be very well connected this year Red

Oh no Bub, we shouldn't be talking about it because it's never going to happen and he's settled and Goody said so. Therefore CLOSE THE THREAD!!! I have serious concerns for some of you supporters... ?

Wish i had a say in it mate

I can't hear the fat lady singing yet! Let's hope we are having another red hot go at him. Imagine: In: Gaff (FA), May, KK, Preuss, pick 5 or 6, future 2ndor 3rd rounder (Kent), pick 36 (AVB) Out: Hogan, Kent, AVB, pick 44 (Preuss) maybe some later pick swaps. Nice.

1 Oliver 2 Gawn 3 Tmac Smokey: Harmes

On AFL website. Leigh inadvertently rubbing salt into the Pies wounds. Glorious!

You should see the guns shots I took of him and his family. He told me he's keen on joining Melbourne, but wanted a pre-emptive restraining order against me first. Salem agreed, pending the EPL results. All good fun!

Agree with this completely. The pointy end of this year's draft is meant to be very good, the top 6 or so. The only thing that betters this is if we can prize Kelly away from GWS this year with 5 (which will end up being at least 6 with Lynch FA compo) and next year's 1st rounder (16-18)

I seriously doubt a couple of degrees difference will be a factor in his decision. Or are you referring to cold as in lonely? IMO if he leaves it will be because of coin and to be near people he grew up with. I actually believe football is currently not as important to him as it might be to other star players, which is understandable given what he's been through recently. Perhaps he has some delusional thought Ross Lyon and Freo are ready for finals.

IMO Lever isn't a key defender. May and Omac would be the KPD. Lever is intercept 3rd tall. He might put on more size in future and play tall KP, but not as he is at the moment. Frost becomes depth or comes in for opposition match ups or is trade bait.

This is one of those trades where I have confidence our FD will make the right call. If they want him, I will certainly support it.

Have read it somewhere else, maybe in AFL article (hence "apparently"), but for the time being and FWIW, I'll quote our intrepid scoop reporter ?: So it's probably fake news... As an aside, how does one run a family business remotely whilst being a full time footballer for Sydney or Melbourne?

3 years vs our offer of 1, apparently.

They get 6 weeks off before preseason, but will have individual programs given for that time to ensure they come back in shape. As you say, many players go in for ops as soon as the season finishes. No biggie.