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1 hour ago, picket fence said:   So would ANYONE who in the last 2/3 years has been gifted games as a forward He is better when he leads than staying at home, he is not a pack mark type of forward, both he and JVR have no clue as to forward craft and look awkward as opposed to Melk and Fritta. I just hope the new coach brings in someone who can educate those two, plus the younger ones as well.

Because that was what the game style then was, and things have changed. Goodwin had his chance to change in 22 onwards and didn't, and now we see his end product. Whoever comes in, I hope they make the changes to suit the modern game and bring in people who will develop the younger players.

If that happens it's an embarrassment he's so slow a 🐢 would beat him over 100 metres and his throwaway handpasses and dinky kicks that causes turnovers time to move on.

Nah just release Salem full stop he's past it.

2 minutes ago, Gibberish said:   We've lost a year or two of development because we haven't tried players in different positions. We have been so inflexible that it makes it easier for the opposition as we're so predictable. I don't think we are in the position to get any value out of Petracca or Oliver (no that I want to see them leave) but we needed more experimentation for what has largely been a lost season. With a new coach things might be better for those two but the main concern is Oliver can he change roles improve his skills maybe but it's going to need a big pre season as for Vinpre-seasonfor your service bupre-season same with Salem and a few others it's going to be interesting what path the new coach takes.

36 minutes ago, Gibberish said:   I think that's a bit unfair on Chaplin. How much change do expect him to effect on the team in 3 weeks. The forward 50 disconnect has been symptomatic for 4 seasons at least. And Chaplin was the forward coach this year, this is the fault of the gameplan a one paced lack of skill midfield that started in 22 you cannot have Viney Oliver and Trac in the midfield at the same time unless hey believe Oliver can change roles he is going to struggle, drop Viney and Salem, Sparrow, leave Kossie in the forward line the same with Trac just introduce some run next week it doesn't matter about the result and before someone says but Kossie has the run he is more dangerous as a forward than a midfielder.

Well, I'm assuming they have ping pong tables to play on?

The midfield has been a hugh problem all year one paced lack of skills so what to we do same same again.

I appreciate people's willingness to put pen to paper so to speak, all it needs is Gameplan can be worked on but the following is more important. Pace into the midfield Ball skills by hand and foot Decision making Forward craft education and execution If we can fix these areas up, along with some recruiting, it will be a far better and enjoyable year.

It looked to me he was trying too hard to lead the way, and sometimes the harder you try, the results don't go your way because you are rushing. He will be fine.

1 hour ago, Redlagged said:   Oliver was excellent today. Insanity in the air. Try looking at what he does with the ball and without the ball, not the stats. The modern game does not suit him unless they can find another role type.

You can add Salem and Oliver to the list.

7 hours ago, Pates said:   There are people I want to leave the club, Chaplin is most definitely not one of them. He is (to me) our only highly rate assistant. I hope that whoever we get in is able to worth with him and I would send him back to being the defensive line coach. I wonder if his immediate refusal is more to do with him knowing the direction the board want to go down and he's basically saying "I'm not going to waste my Chaplin has been there to long toome to go.

Jesus, one day a coach will let players actually be allowed to think instead of handballing to players in a worse position. They are so robotic in their actions, they don't even look to see the dangers of it or if there are better options.

And if they do then that's a backhander to supporters they get paid enough to do what they are employed to do.

People should have a listen to Max not doom and gloom. https://play.listnr.com/podcast/mmm-breakfast-melbourne/episode/max-gawn-talks-simon-goodwin-axing-club-direction-playing-groups-reaction

And which players are they?

1 hour ago, Previously known as LITD. said:   Then again I just read Simon saying....... I’m disappointed because I think we’re a hell of a lot closer to turning our club and team back into a contender again than what people think, So there's that. Then he was delusional about the midfield and forward line the players skill level by hand and foot and decision making one could see the game change in 22 onwards even he admitted problems with connection with the forward line and what changed how have players been educated on forward craft not one has stood out, this fell on him, now I'm happy that he guided us to a premiership with the gameplan that worked for us. Still, if you you cannot evolve as the game changes then you fall behind now I didn't see the sacking until or maybe at the end of the year if at all but it's done and now we move on.

6 hours ago, The Trunk said:   I can’t believe with the decision to sack a Premiership Coach that a Board (even Melbourne’s) would take such a huge decision without input from either a senior player (Max no way) or GM Football. Richardson would have heard the “noise” that major change was coming . It will come out in time because leaks always happen at Melbourne but if this is the case this reeks of Dean Bailey / Cameron Schwab ie we got the wrong man. Watch this space Gee, I remember the same club when the players ruled the roost. It took Peter Jackson and Roos to sort that out, whether you like it or not, it's a business. Players are employees, and they will be coached by a new person, and they will adapt or move on or get moved on. That's football.

They gave Goodwin chance he just didn't move away from 21 football the game did and it showed.

Wonder where he has heard that before....

Not against Longmire more than Hinkley or Simpson

Those having a go about Casey should get a grip, do you really know think that the home base issue just happened over the last few years we have been a caravan club since we left the G we had our chances over certain periods of time now people think this will happen now caulfield will still be a few years away if it goes ahead so if you are complaining about Casey what do you suggest they do, borrow anywhere from one hundred million plus to build one we are where we are deal with it.

While I was surprised by the announcement this morning, the bandaid has been torn off moving forward, but I would like to say thanks for your time and effort, and you will always be in the history books as a premiership coach, and that can never be taken away. Sometimes in life you believe in something so hard you lose sight of the end game and get caught up with it and are unable to see what the problem is, which I'm afraid happened with Goodwin, and therefore his downfall. It will be interesting to see what direction the club takes.

What do the runner and welfare officer have to do with a player being substituted? Nothing. An acting person in a position applying for another job, and you think that he missed out because he was at the club was the reason... laugh my [censored] off. Having a new CEO not starting until September is not ideal but not earth-shattering; he will be well-informed about issues, and we have had someone doing the role. The position we are in regarding football is entirely on the football department, and they should have seen the warning signs three years ago regarding game style and player performance. It's time for a reset, but it's apparent that Goodwin will maintain the status quo. As for Trac, he will only go somewhere else if the club decides so, not him. The same goes for Oliver and Viney, but I could move on from those two if any party is interested, along with Salem and a couple of others.