demon3165

8 hours ago, Go Ds said:   No, kicking a soccer ball and practising torps, bananas etc and kicking short and long distances and when fresh and when exhausted , with a breeze, against a breeze, with a waterlogged ball yada yada yada all help overall with kicking skills. No one's gonna try kicking bananas with a soccer ball. I'd wager the huge majority of AFL players could kick 20m since puberty and if suddenly our players can't that's more likely due to lack of confidence or morale, maybe complacency and maybe lack of fitness. The shape of a ball won't fix those things though maybe a break from a Sherrin,while still practising everything else , may help slightly. I'm all for doing things differently and being inventive to change things up but when you cannot execute the simple things then you keep practising until you get it right, as for the fitness part you may be right there when Burgess was there you still went hard even when sore attitude and we ran out games hard but that was when we played a contest game the game has changed for us.

Simple when you struggling to kick a ball 20 metres with an oval ball i suggest you practice with that first as seen in our last two games a soccer ball won't help that and as for you saying helping to kick tops, banana, flat punts kicks it's not even close kicking a soccer ball now if the were learning how to curve using the inside of the foot well yes but we don't do that.

Well, he ain't slow either.

This has been known since 2022. Even Stevie Wonder could see it. We have just not invested in it and did the old What I did today, you do tomorrow now it's bitten us in the 🍑🍑🍑🍑.

The issue sides have moved away from contest to contest football now it's a pace running game with ball skills and we are one a paced poor skills midfield, last week showed up Oliver, Viney and co and they just chased stops all day, it also does not help that Max cannot jump at centre bounces and relies on contact, more and more opposition ruckman just jump into him and nullifies him to get get first use.

People are forgetting one big difference: one has a round ball that doesn't bounce in different ways, and you don't handle the ball, but if we bring it in the side, we might be in with a chance.

They always kicked back and across the ground and then attacked; Mitchell is playing a similar type of game but quicker. We are a long way off the pace and skill now. If teams allow us to make it a contest-to-contest game, we are in with a chance, but I think those teams are limited.

The Hawks did it in their golden years nothing new there.

Tell that to Darren Burgess I'm sure he would think about doing that.....at Adelaide.

Yep soccer will fix those oval shaped balls skills Yep, soccer balls will fix those oval-shaped ball skills. They would have preferred if they put a car on the oval over 30 to 50 metres away with the windows down and try to kick the balls into the car rather than running around with soccer balls.

While i expect a more spirited performance this week your view on the gameplan is off we don't have the midfield to do it and the games against the roos and the sun's showed that up big time Oliver and Viney and co just ran around chasing stops all day, I have been saying this since 2022 lack of pace and skills are hurting us big time. We have been trying to work out a forward line for the last 4 years time to get someone in to help educate the players on forward craft.

Oliver cannot just keep playing the same role the game has changed as for Viney in all honesty what role can he play he hasn't got the pace to play a linkage running player or the skills that go with that role now he has been a great player for the club and some serious discussions need to take place over him.

You cannot play quick ball movement all day with a one-paced midfield; full stop. They are good against a team that plays similarly, but the game started to change from the 2022, and we kept playing the same way. Now our lack of run, skills, and decision-making has come back to bite us badly. Yes, we will improve, but not to the extent needed to match the top teams. Viney is too slow and, like Oliver, was shown up when there is no congestion in packs. Once the ball is moved quickly, he is out of the contest with ease. Max, unfortunately, cannot jump at center bounces, and opposing teams will now just jump into him, making it harder for him to provide the first opportunity to give it off to someone. The game plan is something else; because of the lack of quick movement and skills, everyone is around the ball creating packs and contests. However, when the ball is moved to the outside by the opposition and transferred, it opens us up and allows them scoring opportunities much easier than we can. All our forwards are that far up the ground when we do get it, so all you see are 2-3 backmen alone forming a wall across the half-back line and picking us off. You cannot delist everyone, but Trac and Kossie should be kept. Oliver should either be traded or have his role recreated. Viney, who has been a loyal soldier, cannot keep playing in the midfield if he struggles to contribute against runing sides, Sparrow is in no man's land, but the worse thing is the inability to hit targets by hand or foot is staggering and does not help the cause at all. It's going to be an interesting year.

Maybe a little harsh but true with me..

But the sycophants on here will tell you the problem is loading, injuries, umpires and any other excuse but we will make the finals so keep quite.

He gave up at times, but I have said this for a long now. Oliver has the best below-the-need ball control since Williams, but he is a shocking kick, lacks football decision-making abilities and as the game gets quicker, like Viney, are liabilities to a team.

Out Viney, Oliver and Salem for a start.

Oliver were you watching the 21 grand final..

I have to apologise to all the people who play netball in my post, we clearly could not practice that as you have to have skill, coordination and an ability to hit targets quickly maybe we could practice ring a ring a roses.....

More soccer practice is needed on Monday. Maybe they could change it up and include netball...

Well I have said it since 2022 our midfield is one paced lack of skills and people on here said I was wrong well it's only going to get worse from now on welcome to the show.

I see the soccer practice fixed our ball skills.

Then Viney and Salem wouldn't get a game then.

The game against the Roos should largely fall on the midfield. However, we have players who cannot move the ball quickly: May, Lever, Petty, Viney, Sparrow, McDonald, and to a degree, Rivers. They stop and look down the line first, and are too slow to react. Even when the ball is switched, it is still mark and prop, as the midfield does not move quick enough. Case in point: the Hawks. Once it's switched, it's all go. Gold Coast will try to play on and run at all times. Hopefully, not playing at the G much might be a little more difficult.

I didn't realise the club is not operating without a CEO; shut the doors; what a load of [censored] and non-story by opinion writers who rush these days for a story I prefer the club takes its time to get who they want for the long run.