demon3165

20 minutes ago, von said: I think they have pretty well-defined roles, especially within our powerhouse, all-team defensive structure that has been the industry standard for years. I imagine it depends on the team we are playing and the game's state, and I also imagine each midfielder has different instructions regarding such things. It seems to me that even when we are in an all-out attack, there is a lot of structure and discipline around remaining defensively sound and in the correct formation. "Defense first" has been a team mantra for many years. Yes, I agree. What I was saying is that Oliver has some deficiencies and could be a more dangerous player if he moved forward as a midfielder more often when the opportunities arise. The game plan we played certainly didn't help that, but you made some good points; a pity the conversation got derailed in the first place.

Now that's an interesting one about Bowser.

So you only want people who agree with the minions view well I ain't one of those so bad luck if people respond I will answer full stop so maybe don't reply.

When running forward with the play yes or do you think they just run with their opponent? When they haven't got the ball they man up to stop the flow.

Well one I'm allowed to have a view whether you agree with it or not and two couldn't care less about what you eat, it's very simple don't reply and don't read the posts but you do...

I'm not the who implied what his role was. Yes, I am making observations and opinions, and people can disagree with me, and that's ok, so you think he's a complete footballer and doesn't need to improve?

Try and keep up where did I imply taking away his strengths I talk about improving his game why is that a problem, why do people want to put him in a box and that's all he can do.

I'm not the one who claimed that running forward is not his role you did, I am only suggesting he can do better as a footballer.

So your observations are not facts, thanks.

And the other question?

Oh if that's the case why has he kicked 54 goals, and you know this how please tell.

Rubbish that’s a midfielders role to impact games, the game has changed and will change again if you think that's his only role in the team well good for you.

Every footballer has deficiencies no one is perfect but are you saying that Oliver cannot improve on his to make himself a better player!

Are they trying to keep a tall staying within the 25 metres mark?

For starters what's vanity got to do with kicking goals, so going by your logic Oliver as a midfielder who has license to roam when we have the ball has only one job and that is to extract the ball only in your view so you don't think he has the ability to improve or to hurt teams in front of goal interesting.

Not as a midfielder you have a licence to roam, you will have a role when you don't have the ball accept that.

It has nothing to do with roles and where did I say anything about resting forward? And if you go back to late 21 he started playing more as an outside mid than in 22, 23 well forget 24 I also have not said he was not important in winning a flag but he has deficiencies and for people to suggest he has none don't look at the game with open eyes suggest you do.

Then you don't watch games then, handballs to people in a worse position when under pressure, kicks blindly without looking, they are the areas to work on.

Oliver is one of the best below the knees midfielders I've seen since Diesel Williams great extractor of the ball and a good mark but average decision maker and an average kick those are the areas he needs to improve on I just replied to a question about goals from midfielders, Oliver just doesn't hurt sides in that department because he doesn't runn forward enough that's all.

Is Oliver a midfielder? This has nothing to do with roles that's just a cop out.

Oliver is coming into his 10th season and has only kicked 54 goals that's just facts, Trac is coming into his 10th season and has kicked 184 goals, Oliver doesn't hurt sides forward of the ball that's what I'm saying.

Now if only Oliver could become that....

That's good to hear seems like a big change will come with their game plan, the one thing I will be interested is when they switch the ball how quick they do it and if if they kick the ball low and hard instead of pie floaters.

He needs to trim down a bit to gain some speed no doubt he was fit in the first place.