I have to disagree about Bate/Newton. I don't think Bate is as much of a liability as Newton. Bate has been quiet but he at least gives a contest. I also feel that Newton gets in the way up forward. I'd rather see more room for Jurrah who does his best work when isolated up forward. Bate on the other hand works hard up the ground and although he's a bit slow, he is strong and tries hard. I'd like to see him play a couple in a row in the seniors, rather than the 1 week up, dropped, dominate the VFL, back up again pattern we have going on.