Jordie_tackles

You can be as anti Neeld as you like as far as i am aware. Just be prepared to back it up with something would be my advice and as long as it is fair game, ie no personal attacks or anything you should be well fine to say what is on your mind. The more diverse opinion the better as a far as i am concerned as long as you can have some substance to the arguement. Welcome

I think Thompson had shown more than both Toy and Caddy when he left. I was very disappointed as a younger fan to see him go. Even back then i could see how good he was.

Dont mind this

Issue with Otten is his injury history. But i do believe offering him games rather than money will get it done. ie. the spot is yours to lose mentality. No good earning the dough if you are playing in the VFL/SANFL

Tippet and Cloke being Out of contract? but i would assume if this is the case the club will be shaking every tree to see what might fall out!

This is just because he needs another 12 months to sew up that big China deal

In what way? the rules havnt changed in a while as far as i understand? Its just that our first pick is mega low by our own doing which makes it difficult.

He came 17th in their BaF

This is what we ask for, good on the boys. I think if we were going to keep one of Petterd, Bate and Dunn, Dunn showed he wanted it the most or that he can be useful in the back end of the year. Thanks for the update.

Could be a bargain if neeld gets the best out of the kid. but am not sold 100% def has some talent just whether he can do it consistently or not i guess? had a huge debut season i remember

Rucks going recently for picks 7-15, Jolly and Jacobs even Maric went closer to 20 all better than Martin. I think Collingwoods first rounder would be more than kind. Although i think when rucking on his own Martin can be very dynamic in the middle. he can get clearances similarly but not as well as NN. Jamar ect cannot do this. Only rucks with Basketballling backgrounds can do this.

Obviously, Kelvin Lawrence will go for a number 2 pick if GWS offer pick 1. I think he is worth no where near pick 12 on current form.

I would think a pick 15-20 would more than suffice

Are you saying for one of two uncontracted pies?

If picks are over rated then dont use them to argue a players worth. Fact is Caddy had an average year/career at GC. Had "a few" good games. Not worth pick 13 in thsi market. maybe our second rounder IF Viney is pushed at pick 3

I have read that he is a bit of a bolter for even the number 1 spot, being Victorian and that Martin may be more keen to stay in WA....this seems weird as it was obvious when he nominated that neither WA team could get a pick to organise the trade?

By Knightmare : Power Rankings for 2013 – to give an indication of where I rank these eligible for the minidraft against those others in next year’s draft: 1. Thomas Boyd (VIC - KPF) 2. James Aish (SA - MID) 3. Luke McDonald (VIC - UTIL – NM F/S) – Minidraft eligible but likely will choose not to enter due to F/S. 4. Jesse Hogan (WA - KPF) – Minidraft eligible 5. Matt Crouch (VIC - MID) – Minidraft eligible 6. Jack Martin (WA - UTIL) – Minidraft eligible 7. Josh Kelly (VIC - MID) – Minidraft eligible 8. Jack Billings (VIC - FWD) 9. Matt Scharenberg (SA – MID/DEF) 10.James Tsitas (VIC – Mid) 11. Luke Dunstan (SA - Fwd) 12. Trent Dumont (SA - Mid) 13. Guy Dickson (VIC - FWD) 14. Willy Rioli (NT – Fwd) 15. Eli Templeton (TAS - Mid) 16. Ben Lennon (VIC - Fwd) 17. Cameron Conlon (VIC – KPF/Ruck) 18. Dominic Sheed (WA – Mid) 19. Dwayne Wilson (SA – Mid) 20. Christian Salem (VIC - Fwd) 21. Billy Hartung (VIC - Mid) 22. Aaron Christensen (VIC – Mid/Fwd) 23. Aaron Heppell (VIC – Mid/Def) 24. Jacob Coniglio (WA – Mid) 25. Luke Reynolds (SA – Ruck/KPP) 26. Sam Garstone (WA – KPP) 27. Nicholas Bourke (VIC - Mid) 28. Lewis Taylor (VIC – Mid) 29. Isaac Conway (Brisbane – QLD – Mid) 30. Elijah Edwards (Collingwood - NSW/ACT – Mid) Minidraft (2012): 1. Jack Martin (WA – Mid/Fwd) Height: 185cm, Weight: 72kg, DOB: 29/01/1995 Recruited from: Claremont Style: Dale Thomas Player comparison: Range: 1-10 Profile: Martin is a neat little prospect and really stands out with his great run and carry. Has great pace and uses it well through the midfield and is a guy you really notice. One thing that has impressed me with Martin is his explosive sidestep, can just explode off to the side and it isn’t just straight line pace. Probably more of an outside player but is an above average stoppage player and clearance work very reasonable for someone so slight of build which is encouraging. Has a great leap on him and can take a high flying mark and also for his size is a very strong contested mark. Has also shown nice ability to read the ball and regularly gets intercept marks off opposition kicks. After a mark is willing to move the ball on quickly and in a team with quick ball movement could really thrive. Lively tackler. Skills very neat and pin point. Finishing ability around goal good. Also really like his composure with ball in hand and generally uses it really well. Why: 2. Jesse Hogan (WA – KPF) Height: 193cm, Weight: 97kg, DOB: 12/02/1995 Recruited from: Claremont Style: Jonathan Brown Player comparison: Range: 1-10 Profile: Strong contested marking forward and is a real presence and target you can kick to. Also has excellent ability to take a 1v1 mark and this seems a real feature of his game. Reads it well in the air and off the players boot. Has the ability to crash packs and bring it to ground and seems to enjoy the physical side of the game. Physically developed for his age and already a very high level key forward. By foot is a good field kick and can find a leading target. Will need to work on set shot goal kicking routine – just doesn’t look as fluid as you’d ideally like to see and as a result his set shot goal kicking seems to suffer. Why:

Sounds good for a guy who cant get a game

GWS and GC the last two years?

They simply cant afford to RL, plus you have to consider the effects Malthouse will have ect

Dawes at his best is great, but 2012 Dawes may as well be Sellar

Was just saying that i understand as you seemed to imply i thought the culling was done, no we both expect another 5-6 cuts i imagine tbh, taking us into double figures roughly or further

No there is still a high number of people who will get the cut OD dont worry about that

Ridiculous call, he was the AA CHF in that draft, ahead of Darling ect he would have gone as the first KPP picked. What is this Jurrah, Moloney Gysberts and Cook......delisted When will we be delisting the Dunns, Bates and Petterds of this list come on!

Pretty sure he was overlooked for Magner and Couch at stages, who have less than 30 games between them! why is this? maybe someone needed to work harder.....