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Is he? i am becoming more confident that he will pull out the other side with one group who are willing to do what it takes and will back each other. In what way has he fractured the club? He would have told Brent that he needs to improve if he wants to play, if you dont want to, look else where? seems fine to me, it is what iexpect.

Someone said they had meetings monday and tuesday so maybe tonight/tomorrow is where it all really starts, still good signs

You see it this way, im pretty sure Brent got told to gagf because he wasnt buying in the same as Jones, Mcdonald, Grimes, Trengove.....even Blease and Sylvia seemed to get the message this year, thats the only explanation to his meteoric fall from grace i can see

As funny as it is after what he reportedly told Brock ect When the writing is on the wall it is funny how he reacted in exactly the same way, I assume it was made clear to him where he stood and what he was worth, if he find greener pastures good on him because it think it was as much a MFC decision as Brents tbh

Maybe just 3 way trade, 3 for gaff for MD pick

Pretty sure there is a rule against that, as last year GWS were planning on doing that to secure O'Meara and were called out on it

They are correct still mate, he has not signed an extension and is pretty much the only high profile Giant not to do so at this stage which is where i think his contract confusion is coming from......he still has his second year to run at this stage though. So maybe just a miscommunication talking about him not signing but ignoring to mention it is an extention beyond 2013 not this year.

Is contracted so i think it would take either pick 3-4 to do it, which is what he is worth, depends on if he is valued higher than say MD pick 1/2 or who is going to be their at picks 3/4 this year? i think Toumpas will be gone at this stage so he could well be the best available with a year under his belt.

Dont know what rate he is growing at but the number 24 doesnt stay vacant long of late

I am grateful we had the chance to see liam play as he is a great talent but if this is true then it hurts, passed by Rockliff to take him

I am of a similar opinion, give the a day or a week, but when they return from their break they should be in the same condition they left in, and ready for a grueling pre-seaon if you do that then do what you want on Monday ect

Goldcoast would be pretty happy to take a 4-5 place drop on him from what they paid and get back into a strong draft imo.....lots of good players going around at about pick 13 this year.

Pretty sure that is purly due to the acquisition of the Bentely club or what whatever it is who now own.

wrong Cameron was a listed 17yo wasnt he, wasnt nation drafted las tyear so has had an equal amount of time as Cook in the system and one less than Gys

I doubt Neeld will let this fly imo. He ill know how hard they are all working, he doesnt settle for second best or at least claims as much on a regular basis. And i agree i bet MOST weights sessions or sessions of any variety will have a number of coaches, and fitness staff aka Misson available. Misson has gotten 2 clubs very fit in Sydney and teh saints i dont doubt Misson personally

Is hard i see no reason to g o all out with pick 3 unless it is a huge demand by GWS. Ideally GWS tell GC not to bid as it benefits them for us to trade with them. and in turn they will give GC MD pick 1 imo

If he had any idea he would realise he is the 1000th person to explain this

I think people think Hogan is better than him, so trading pick 4 for use or 6 for the Dogs to get Hogan is proposed before Shaw gets taken from what i hear. I would target Mayes before him at 4 also Meaning if we pass and the dogs take Hogan at 6 he may slideoutside the top 10.

FS is done prior to trade week, so we would know the outcome anyway, we are in the best position to not get screwed in this way. It is just a matter of getting GC and GGWS not to bid then trading with them after they let Viney slip

I am not saying he is the greatest player, i obviously like him. But i think our game has a place for taggers 1 or 2 a team max., and JM is a good one imo. tackles hard and often, 5 a game generally. and gets it 15 times himself. Not rubbish. And has tagged some big players into the ground imo. edit - what may be inetersting is when the team, if the team improves dramatically. Neeld said at Collingwood they were good enough that they didnt tag players. Will he have a spot then? atm our midfield isnt good enough,when you are top 4 you go head to head more often than tagging.

I will disagree, i have seen alot more in Cook personally, BUT havnt seen any of Fitz'z back half of 2012 to comment on it personally. When i saw both play last year i personally rated Cook much i higher. I am very much in the minority/ on my own in this atm. My point being and which i think is true, that nobody bare maybe yourself and a select few thought much of Fitz, especially after he got his AFL game last year OD. it wasnt great. Fitz is now all the rage, i year after i think many had written the guy off, i havnt seen him play this year tbh but going from reports atm he is looking dangerous, and what i like not seeing him, is he is200cm which i think is the NEW 2012 tall forward height. players who mark the ball 3.5-4 Metres high and cannot be spoiled when doing this. IT IS NOT POSSIBLE on the lead arms out that high. All i am saying is the arm chair supporter a term i use loosely here had it out for Fitzi nthe same way they do Cook atm. Fitz also played games in the Casey 2's along the way if i recall.

Got to laugh, the same people who rate Fitzy's run of form and want him selected now and Cook delisted would have been writing about how poor Fitz was last year ect not getting games......and not worthy of a spot. but it is demonland after all. Fitz has had an extra year than Cook and is JUST starting to come good at VFL level, time is a wonderful thing for developing players.

Jones posted on his facebook question and answer today that he rates Jordie as the most underated player at our club.

dont argue with yoru facts, they will get you knowhere here, this is demonland

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