Dockett 32

Point 7. was ok Mallee Bull.

I hope they play Jack this week againt a team whom some will argue are largely made up of his peers or in some cases are even younger. This sort of outing shouldn't do him any harm at all and may let us know a bit more about where he is at.

Davey to Ablett and possibly dragging his tagger with him is an option they may try at some stage, but Bail for mine.

Agreed Diablo. He made a mistake that he will learn from. He was embarrassed and made an apology. Think most of us have been there. I have. Club has made their position clear. He has been in All Australian form the last couple and I hope this is the spur for him to push on all year. People who don't make mistakes don't make anything. I wish we had a few more like him on the field and just love to watch him play.

Embarrassed himself badly, however cut the boy some slack, its out of character for this bloke. Tough as they come and gives the club his all. Fine him heavily. Very heavily if you like, but don't penalise the team. The club could do with a few bob after our truly pathetic turnout yesterday.

He's knocking on the door which is good, but prior efforts mean he has to start banging more loudly. Another couple of 5 goal hauls and he's a chance.

Yes an interesting observation by GL. Nonetheless there may be more to the story for us and other teams who may not be as fortunate as Collingwood in terms of supporter numbers and resultant revenue. It strikes me for instance that the Box Hill Hawks/Hawthorn arrangement is quite a successfull one and when overlayed with the Eastern Rangers ( who play a number of their games at Box Hill) this gives them something of a vertical operation in the region. Together with Hawthorn's Glenferrie origins and their training venue at Waverley Hawthorn have made quite a commitmment to the Eastern corridor and carved out a decent 'niche' for themselves. I believe for instance that outside perhaps the Amos the Eastern Football League is also one of the largest junior leagues Australia wide. So overall I doubt that such a strategy would have harmed Hawthorn's supporter base or $$ fron the area. Notwithstanding the recent 'micro' event at Casey which may have unsettled a few people, perhaps a at the Demons have taken the macro view and actually prefer the alignment model complete with warts and all. Afterall these can be worked on and fine tuned. Meanwhile the Demons begin to carve out their owm territory ( complete with Gippsland Power ) are also operating within a growth corridor and are enjoying reduced expenditure.In addition there seems to be the prospect for an increase to membership long term when the local kids, families etc can rock down to Casey Fields. Not denying Garry's points which may sit well for some clubs, but at the same time I am not convinced that changing the script now to a stand alone team is right for us at this point, particularly as we seem to be making such significant progress off the field. More patience required, but we are well trained in that.

Enjoyed that insight Bhima thanks.

My concern is that we haven't landed any of them. Collingwood, Hawthorn, Carlton know how to hit the target, why don't we?

Dockett 32, on 04 April 2011 - 11:28 PM, said: Not condoning Pea stuff Dee-luded, but believe reasonable opportunity should be afforded as it already has been for Newton IMO. Wouldn't consider him seriously simply on the back of one five goal haul. 5 kicked and about 5 created/given off. Ok that's good, but would like to see him do it three weeks in a row and truly earn a spot. Our boys have been challanged for being weak etc on another thread and now Jimmy's given them a tickle up. I don't think for one second they are weak and would like to give them a chance to prove it.

Not condoning Pea stuff Dee-luded, but believe reasonable opportunity should be afforded as it already has been for Newton IMO. Wouldn't consider him seriously simply on the back of one five goal haul.

Bennell idea interesting. Think you have to show a little faith and give them three weeks to see who's up to it. If Garland ok maybe only the Gys for someone.

So what's Tom done wrong exactly?

Was a pretty fair effort by Hardwick's team on Friday night. Happy to agree with that and even moreso without JR. The season has only begun however and would want to see where we are at the middle of the season and then again at the end of it before we can begin to judge Hardwick v. Bailey, if you want to go that way. Way to early to call that one.

The niceness thing is a bit of a problem. Would be nice if a few of our blokes had a bit of Scarlett, Moody, Chapman mentality about them.

We don't have any evidence that Bailey can or can't coach or if the football department have got it right or wrong as they have been in a nice cosy 'development' place for the past three years. The football public and media have given them the benefit of the doubt as they rebuilt, which is fair enough. So not much scrutiny to date. I'd like to think they may have it right and the FD would also realise the clock is ticking. Pretty soon ( two three months) Vince Lombardo will start to raise his head.

A lot of what has been said is calming, balanced and much the same as the comments as this time last year. Some posters suggest yesterday was nothing that serious to worry about. Sort of "She'll be right Jack" stuff. However, it should be noted that we are a year on. Most (I think) acknowledge we are in the growth phase and therefore should do better than our 2010.( Our draw assists here as well and should be factored.) So while yesterday was disappointing and may have appeared to have been a step back, where we are in the middle of the season in terms of wins and where we are on the table should give an early indication of how we have performed. A couple of months will begin to tell the future MFC story.

Tappscott is coming along just fine as far as I can see. Really appreciate his attitude and approach for a young bloke. Generally shows maturity ,composure and contribution rate way beyond his years as does Trengove. I'm aware they can make a few blues, but the foundation is strong and errors will decrease over time. Do yourselves a favor, relax and just watch them grow into hopefully really great players for us. Don't think you will be disappointed.

Todays disposal stats, I think they give an indication of how our Running players are going. Player.................... K,,,,H,,,,,D Colin Sylvia.............17,,,,9,,,,,26 Jack Grimes...........14,,,,6,,,,,20 Nathan Jones..........10,,,,6,,,,16 Luke Tapscott.........16,,,,7,,,,23 Rohan Bail..............12,,,,8,,,,20 Aaron Davey...........12,,,,3,,,,15 Clint Bartram...........9,,,,,7,,,,16 Stefan Martin..........9,,,,,5,,,,,14 Brad Green.............9,,,,,6,,,,,15 Jack Trengove.........8,,,,,6,,,,,14 Mark Jamar............2,,,,,7,,,,,9 James Frawley.......9,,,,,5,,,,,14 Ricky Petterd.........7,,,,,5,,,,,12 Lynden Dunn..........5,,,,,5,,,,,10 Liam Jurrah............7,,,,,3,,,,,10 Jack Watts............6,,,,,9,,,,,15 Brent Moloney.......6,,,,,11,,,,,17 ---------------------------------------------- Jamie Bennell.......5,,,,,3,,,,,,8 Jared Rivers...........5,,,,,4,,,,,,9 Colin Garland.........8,,,,,3,,,,,11 Neville Jetta..........5,,,,,4,,,,,,9 Addam Maric.......3,,,,,3,,,,,6 IMO we need more size into the team and some more tenacity. It might be time to bring in Newton. We play the Lions and then the Suns. This would be a good time to give him a run. We need someone who will present @ CHF. My changes: Wonnaemirri in for Maric. Gysberts in for Jetta. McDonald in for the inj' Garland. Newton in for Watts. (Watts to Sub.) Hmmm. Might have to burn a couple to indicate a loss in this manner can't go unpunished.Dont think you would want to be below the line and am prepared to exclude Rivers & Garland from consideration. But Newton for Watts is rash, although the lad is getting closer to needing a rocket.

As long as Jonesy remembers for next time I haven't got a problem, but it should be squared up. Only fair!

old dee, on 03 April 2011 - 10:50 PM, said: Could not agree more Jaded. I came home had something to eat and a single malt so I would let the anger flow out before I turned on the computer. What I saw today: I saw a team that was total out classed In saw a team that should have been out of the game by quarter time. I saw 22 melbourne players none of whom I can say beat their opponent the majority of the time. I saw a team that could not clear the ball at kick ins and we had plenty of them to get it right. I saw a team that will not make the finals this year. I saw a team that is unfortunately a long way from being a power side. I saw a game plan that I do not believe our players have the skill to implement against good opposition. I saw 5 out of 21 players that could hold their heads up tonight, Tapscott, Bail,Martin, Rivers and Sylvia I saw a coach that is so composed it makes me puck. I saw My dream slip out by an additonal year. So back to the single Malt and dreams of 2015 before we can cut it with the likes of Hawthorn. Unfortunately have to agree with most of the above. Our blokes just have to learn to 'die for the cause' for 100 minutes and to do anything else is unacceptable. Bail ,Tapscott,Silvia seem to understand and are prepared to put their head over the ball and take what comes.Backward step tonight but not the end of the world.Lets hope the big lesson from tonight was that we were monstered in the second half and allowing ourselves to be monstered must not happen again for the rest of the season. Over to the coach and players to massively improve their engine room clearance work. We got smashed in the midfield. If not corrected immediately we'll get the heavy physicall pressure in this area dished up to us every week.

I reckon its handy too JCB. It makes a statement.

I dont remember a young Blake or Cox being all that co-ordinated early on in their careers either. He's essentially on the Rookie list and a very big unit. He also has a crack. We haven't got too many big blokes at the moment as far as I can see, so let's not be too hasty.

I thought Jetta worked hard in the first quarter Condemned, including a decent 'softener' on Mc Evoy who is about double his size.I like that sort of stuff. Reckon we have still done okay with position pretty much as it was at half time. Just hope we run it out and would like a few of the more senior players to lift their intensity.A couple seem to struggle against the quicker sides.

Competitive so far. Three or four skill errors with the feet that top sides will kill you on turnover. Jetta & Watts lively for kids, Bater needs to lift. We've done a lot worse. Green terriffic. Hope we can keep going at the same level for four quarters.Hope Grimey hasn't done a hammy.