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My bad. They were discussing as if he wanted to come home to Vic. Saying he wants to come to Melbourne. Sorry!

Didn't want to start a topic on this but SEN saying that Neele wants to come to Vic with Melbourne and Hawthorn leading the way. Said it about 2 minutes ago on the broadcast

Praise be to the demon! Thanks for going tonight.

Joel Smith in the 2's?

Good to see Dawes get a run this week (hopefully) and see how he goes. For those who have attended training, is he going to ruck at all? I remember he can do it, I don't remember how good he was though and the second ruck. We are lucky to have such a short injury list but it does seem as one goes off, another comes on.

Lad brokes has him at $101 still

Cheeky rising star nom?

6. Watts - I like this version 5. Viney - just wanted to win. 4. Wagner - wow I didn't realise we had one here 3. Gawn - too good in the stoppages. 2. Tyson - he's coming. 1. Frost - give him 1. He was much better this week.

Hey KingDingAling, Any chance you remember who it was / thread it was on? Jamin and Aaron are straight bat sort of guys - I cannot imagine they would have hinted that Dys would be leaving the Dons at all. The boys are pretty good at playing all cards close to their chests and not saying anything until after it has happened. Most importantly, they dont lie or misinform. If they were to have said something (as previous poster has mentioned) then take that as gospel and get your cheque books out.

6 - Gawn - I know there were a few free against and Goldstein had a great game, but he destroyed Goldy in the ruck and bar the first quarter was the best ruck all day. 5 - Viney - Just taking his game to the next level. With Jones well held, it was Viney who was the heart and sole. 4 - Vince - The 10 clearances helped, the possessions helped, but he is still suiting up week in week out really impacting the contest 3 - Oliver - 7 clearances and stood up when we were being beaten in the first quarter. We have a beauty on our hands here. 2 - Jetta - really felt that his tackles, rebounds of of 50, and 1%'s really had a big role in the close result. 1 - Hogan - good response after a media storm this week.

Look at their 2010 draft. I know 2 were father sons but to get your back flank and forward flank in Johanneson and Daulhaus from the rookie draft really helps! I know that they have gotten rid of a lot of deadwood but so much depth in their rookie drafts! Well done Dogs recruiting. For us, I do think 2013-15 have to be our core for us to make it. If you think about it: Harmes <player x> <player x> Salem McDonald White Stretch Oliver Neal Bullen VDB Weiderman <player x> JKH Hogan Hunt <player x> Brayshaw Petracca King, King, Hulett, Wager There is enough talent in there and we have nailed our VDB and Harmes rookie picks. The fact that White and now Wagner are playing are great signs for those 2. Now it is development and hoping that we have the same curve as the dogs.

I saw it and laughed. They are just not trying anymore. May I have a shot (assuming Wagner, Dunn, Oliver, Frost and Pedersen fly down). B: Terlich Garland Munro HB: White O McDonald Hutchins C: Grimes Michie Neale-Bullen HF: Stretch Weiderman Petracca F: Kennedy-Harris Hulett Hunt FOLL: Mitch King Trengove Brayshaw I/C (from): Ambler* Damien Johnston Kielty Rutherford Scott J Smith T Smith Wilson

6 - Kennedy - just want to give him votes. I don't want to think about the rest. 5 - N. Jones - why wasn't he in the midfield the whole game. 4 - Vince - 3 - Garlett 2 - M. jones 1 - Tyson

6 - Viney - ominous 5 - Watts - it's all coming together 4 - McDonald - its the first half of the season again. 3 - Kennedy - was so important in his run and being dangerous. 2 - Oliver - huge in the clearances 1 - N. jones - did what he does best

I love the Chinese one. What is the translation?

More than happy to have 5 of him in the side But that was an unfortunate oversight.

He was able to dispose of the ball. Mainly as Viney held him up there (for what seemed like an eternity, as Wagner looked around, made a decision, then handballed) instead of brining him to ground. A lot of tackles all day were holds as opposed to throws. Wagner would have been out for a week if Viney brought him down.

That is Wagner up in the air.

Without Gawn we are gawn. I dont think we will play finals, but I hope for 9-12th area. Injuries will play a big part in where we finish. If we can have a clean bill of health for our top 20 odd players, I think we will go quite well. I've been thinking about it, and from today if I had to put together the best 22 who played (in position): Jetta Dunn Garland Hunt McDonald Brayshaw Grimes Viney Salem Watts Frost VDB Garlett Hogan Kennedy Gawn Viney Tyson Oliver Kent Wagner ANB

Ok - hopefully this appears somewhere on this thread. 1. Hogan - It was a toss up for BOG for me between Hogan, Salem, and Viney. He was so dominant. I thought Dunn was outstanding today and Hogan was just too strong, too smart. I really cannot express how lucky we are to have this boy. 3. Salem - The contested marking was outstanding, but the highlight was breaking a number of tackles and weaving his way through traffic. Bold prediction - he will be top 3 B&F this year. The boys want the ball in his hands. 4. Watts - A really good game. Probably in the best dozen. Thought he played the lead up role well and when he was in the Blue team (the better one) he looked all class as the delivery to him was much better and then he was delivering it really well to Hogan et al. He will play round 1 in the forward line. 7. Viney - His tackle on Wagner was amazing. He grabs him by the hips, lifts him above his head and then just holds him and squats. He was prolific and hard at it. Lock him in for the Bluey this year. 10. Brayshaw - He just seemed a class above with Salem and Viney than anyone else in the midfield. Oliver was having his own way and then went on to Brayshaw in the last quarter and Brayshaw just killed him. It really felt like no one was on Brayshaw all day, just had time and space. 11. Gawn - Dominant, and really didnt have any competition. I was impressed at how he took that and really looked to have an impact around the ground. The forward line work was quite good. 12. Tyson - I know the reports had him as good, must have done most of his work in close as I didnt see a lot of him. When I did he was Tyson, strong at the contest but not as polished as others. Maybe as I'm not noticing him means he is in and under each time? 13. Oliver - Cannot believe what I saw. After the first half I had him locked for round 1. Played a different role in the second half where he struggled to impact the game. Tackling machine (maybe 8-10 for the day?) and loved the hard ball. I really noticed in the first half the time he had on his hands. It really felt like people decided not to touch him when he had it in the first quarter. Could be something really special. He is seriously big. At one stage he was taking on a player in close and came off second (due to height) and I thought ah well, Vanders is strong, until who I thought was Vanders turned around and it was Frost. He looked similar size to Frost. He is a seriously big boy. 14. Dunn - Is still the best one-on-one defender on our list. Great all day, just Hogan was better. 15. Stretch - he was on the opposite wing to the fans so we didnt see a lot. When we did we saw pace and a really good boot. I dont know if I have him in the 22 after today but he is close. 16. Kent - the hardness and the speed were great. Although he didn't do much, he was dangerous and will be a good weapon for us this year. 17. Frost - Will be our second forward as he presented, rucked, went for the hard ball. Yes he was dropping some marks and his kicking was a little off at times, but the ingredients are there. He showed enough for me to be happy with him in there as the others develop. 20. Garland - Great roost for a rushed behind. Played a really good linkage game up back. Thought his skill level was up and comfortably beat whoever he was on. 21. Pedersen - Had a good moment in the 4th but wasn't really in the game. He needed to impact this pre-season and I didn't see anything that would make me pick him in our best 25 22. Michie - Some really nice things but on the other side of the oval a lot of the time. Enough to show why we gave him a rookie spot. 25. McDonald of the Tom Variety - Played as a midfielder/wing/half back at times. I cant remember him having a one-on-one in the second half. He was really working on being a bull at the gate and pushing through. Really interesting to see where he plays this year. 26. Weiderman - still has a football sized hole in his chest from a bullet from Dunn. Not strong enough yet but he has the skills (marking, kicking, leading, IQ) to be a serious player in the forward line. I thought he was the 4th best forward today behind Hogan, Watts, Frost. 28. McDonald O - this boy will play. His battles with Weiderman were outstanding. It was great seeing these two go at it. Oscar is really impacting contests and he seems as if he has good knowledge of where the ball is going and can peel off his man. Weiderman and McDonald will be better as they will grow together as serious competitors and players. 29. Hunt - Blow me down and call me Betsy. Where did this come from. Seriously, when did this boy become a player? He was in the top 10 for the day and if today (and previous reports) are anything to go by, he will play round 1. He 'hunts' the ball and is just hard at it for an outside type. I dont even know if he is an outside type. He just saw ball, got ball, run away with ball. 30. ANB - On the wing on Grimes most of the day. Ran all day, disposed of the football ok, tackled well, competed well. He is just a footballer's footballer and if I said to you, he was ANB, you can imagine his game. I really like him and think that we are a better team with him here, but he is just going to be a Brad Sewell, not a Luke Hodge. 31. Grimes - Slow first quarter where he struggled with the pace (ANB wore him like a glove). Second quarter he was probably BOG for the quarter. Second half again some really great things and then some times where you just want him to do something special. I think again like ANB, he does his job and he is good at it. He is a good AFL player and will be in the round 1 team as he is in our best 22. A star, no, but a really honest footballer that we all want to do well. 32. Bugg - In it a fair bit, on the wing as well. We saw what weve been told, scrappy and up for a fight. There were some nice passages from him, but these were more tackles and handballs in close rather than game breaking plays. 33. Spencer - was hurt but mostly hurt by the gap between him and Gawn. Was good in drills but in the game just seemed small. 34. Mitchell King - I really liked his game. He presented well, competed well against Gawn and Frost. Project player and am looking forward to see how he goes in the future. 35. Ben Kennedy - Locked in the dreamteam now. He should have had a beautiful running goal but shanked it. Really loved the way he went about extracting the ball today. Was one of the best in the first half, petered off as the game went on. 36. Garlett - Good forward pressure and dangerous. Lock him in for another 30-40 goals this year. 37. Vanders - this boy is special. He just seems to be in everything and is just so strong. There are so many like Vanders on our list now and we are better for it. There was a great bit of play that went Salem - Brayshaw - Watts - Vanders - Hogan and it felt like 5 first rounders marking and disposing of the ball. I'm very happy with his development. 39. Jetta - I am sorry that I ever doubted that you would line up in Round 1. Enjoy another season of killing small forwards across the league. Tenacious and great rebounding. 42. Wagner - Much better than I thought he would be. Was busy early and was in the play a lot. Can run with the maul and got into good positions. Interesting to see how he goes this year. 43. Harmes - thought was good but wasn't blow away with him. He did what he could do and you can see the talent difference between him and our 'top' rounders. He competes hard and hope he has another good season. 44. Smith - not much to say. Really don't remember him in the game other than Dunn coaching him into position. Good skills early on in the drills, but project player. 45. Matt Jones - Listen, I know that people were saying he was having a great pre-season but I didn't see it in the game. He was in and out of the game at the best of times and doesnt look like he belongs. Thank you for your service, I appreciate it. All the best with your future career.

Been really impressed with Kennedy so far. And Oliver is in everything. Viney has the choice to end Wagners life in a tackle but chose not to (think undertaker). Dunn has been great as well, Gawn number 1 ruck on the ground

Just drills so far. Good crowd forming. About 50 possibly. Also it's wet and slippery.

Wow I went badly last year! I'll need to make up for it then. Count me in

And St Kilda. Nothing from the Dees as yet. Now I get we are in Queensland, but I wonder if we are just making sure that we organise everything before we make our statement. I just cannot believe that we wouldnt have had something ready to go on this though.

I'd also be looking at who we can sign on. A speculative pick that we can have for a year and see how they go? Someone who might have just been a little small at the draft? I'd like to think that we would bring in someone to see how they go for a year.