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Well we really don't know if there are any suitors and "not being worth a cracker" is not where the competition sees him. His contract in relation to what he provides is what is out of kilter. Are you suggesting that if he was a delisted FA he'd not find a home somewhere? We all know his history and his poor output is a disappointment but your tone seemed a bit disrespectful to a someone who, in your own words "has been a great servant and a credit to himself". And while you think it's necessary to correct those who think he has value I think it's important to stand up for someone who has served us well.

We get where you stand on TMac.

I think many of you are underestimating the value of Preuss to GWS who are desperate for a ruck. He's a starting 22 quality ruck who has been competitive against the best (Grundy this year) and he's contracted which means we've got the whip hand. Why would we trade him to GWS and not look to get something substantial. They are not going to get better. And as has been discussed, we are weakening our own ruck situation and having to find a mature back up for Gawn. Why would we do that for a nothing pick? I'm hopeful of a good draft pick for him, but having said that, I'm often very wrong with these things.

Does it matter??

I have no intel at all. I was just debating this with a friend.

What if Oliver leaves next year?

No, just a debate with a mate who thinks it's a likely outcome.

Surely not.

I understand the attraction of this philosophy but I think for us it's flawed. We have some very good players. Petracca, Gawn, May and Oliver are very top shelf, they have few equals in the AFL system. We have some good support players - Langdon, Lever, Viney, Salem and Fritsch would walk into any AFL team. Harmes, Brayshaw, Weideman and Tomlinson are good players. We have some very promising youth - Jackson, Pickett, Rivers and Petty will all be long term and good players. But from here we fall off the cliff. Our last 6 or 7 players just don't contribute enough. Players like Hannan, Melksham, Hunt, Hibberd, ANB, AVB and other fringe players just don't contribute enough often enough and leave it to too few to do too much. You can debate where I've put players but you get the drift. We could put all our eggs into another "star" but I think we'd be much better to try and spread that money amongst 3 or 4 solid consistent role players who support the very solid base we have. Brown will cost half of Cameron and provide much more than half the value. Smith and Phillips won't cost a lot but are significant improvements on what we have. There will be others opportunities as well. This addresses the weaknesses of our team where adding another "big" just doesn't because we'd still have too many who are non contributors.

You've got no idea what was offered, when it was offered and what the final contract offer is. If you believe media on this you're silly. Players, managers and clubs will fill this space with misinformation. Time to get smarter.

As most of you will know I attended many of Melbourne's training sessions at Gosch's before we moved to Casey as a result of Covid. My main interest was the rehab group, I always like to see who's in rehab and how they are progressing and as a result I watched Harley on many occasions. I'll confess to being hard line when it comes to a failure of individual responsibilities and whilst I welcomed Harley's presence because I thought he had exactly the skills we needed I wasn't sold on him as a person for obvious reasons. But since then a couple of things have happened. The first was reading the story in The Australian of the racism Eddie Betts has suffered over the journey in which things happened that I found hard to believe. It made me appreciate the racism indigenous people suffer in this country. The second was getting to know Harley in a very minor way. He didn't talk to "track watchers" but because I was always near the rehab group he came to recognize me after a while. I'd say hello and he'd just smile, perhaps say a few words, but that was more than many got. I'd watch him casually grab a footy and from the boundary slot a banana goal so easily it seemed surreal. One day he decided that doing this was too easy so he made the shot more difficult and slotted it again. I was open mouthed and he looked at me and had a huge smile on his face. I said to him "it's like hitting a great drive, it never gets stale" and he laughed. For all that has happened what Harley had was a type of quiet charisma. The players clearly loved him and I really liked him to the point he became my favourite player. I didn't really understand why he was but he just was. What has happened is terribly sad but Harley is a product of his upbringing and his past. I'm proud we gave him a chance, sad it failed and wish him all the best for the future. Thanks Harley and thanks for showing me repeatedly the extraordinary skills you have first hand. I'd not have believed them if I hadn't seen them. I hope you find happiness.

Did Dogs go to Cairns today?

Did The Suns travel to Adelaide today?

Oh, the irony.

Sex x 15

Sex

1. Gawn 2. Viney 3. Petracca 4. Oliver 5. Harmes (for his stopping job on Harbrow who hardly touched it) 6. Langdon

Petracca Gawn Oliver Langdon Viney Salem Hunt had 7 possessions and only 3 after quarter time. Lucky he kicked the goals. Rivers was very good first up but Salem was better. Viney was good when we needed him and dragged us across the line, he’s not getting enough recognition here. What a disappointing performance. Bergo, what happened?

Well there you go!! My bad. Having said that the MCC Board is the biggest Boy's Club there is. But he will have MFC sympathies so that's a positive.

I'm with your rjay. I'll remind people of this. Howcroft was terrible this day. He failed to take responsibility of the horrendous state he and the Board he sat on left our Club. I don't like people who don't take responsibility. He was dismissive of the membership that was present that day and displayed a sense of arrogance and entitlement. It's mind numbing to me that he is again on our Board. Hopefully Glen Bartlett explains to him his role and hopefully he does it. But I find it hard to believe we couldn't have found someone better. This smells like "jobs for the boys" to me and why you'd want to remind members who have a memory and understanding of just how poor the Board he sat on was I just don't understand.

It's was sad when these two were drawn against one another in the first round. Both would be in my top 5 or so, both hugely underrated by many MFC supporters IMO. Jones will probably win mainly based on the fact many of the younger supporters didn't see or have forgotten how good Junior was. I voted Junior. IMO he was cleaner, made better decisions and was a better clearance player. He won two B&F's in a period when we had players like Travis, Ooze, Neita, Robbo and others of high standard. Jones won when he had little opposition which is not to suggest he didn't deserve them but merely to point out the greater competition Junior faced. But the clincher for me is Junior's AA. Competition for mid spots was significant. Judd, Cousins, Beams, Pendles, Bartel, Ablett and on you go. Junior was judged against them and was selected AA. Jones has faced similar competition but wasn't. And finally I think Junior was a better captain. It's always hard to tell from the outside but where the captaincy never seemed to sit comfortably with Jones it always did with Junior. Picking one over the other made me feel a bit sick but on an objective measure Junior shades Jones because of his AA and a few intangibles. Shocking situation to have them drawn against each other round 1, both greats of the Club who offer so much more than many others in this draw.

Well well well. Someone, in the opinion business, gets it wrong. Let's call him names, let's vent and let's not recognize that in footy we've all been horribly wrong at times. He had an opinion. He didn't hurt anyone but now we'll start vilifying him shall we??

I think people are reading too much into Brown ahead of Weid. Weid probably didn't train for a week or so with his ankle. They want a very fit team for today and so Brown gets the nod. Brown wasn't picked ahead of Weid for the Hawks game and Weid did okay in that game, he actually brings the ball to the ground better than Brown who is more lead and mark. Weid also is a good chop out ruck. I think Brown was picked because he was fitter, not better.

I'll be happy to watch anyone...

Interesting photos, Smith and Petty wearing there numbers kit. Those in rehab usually don't wear numbers. But it's Casey so who knows. Again it doesn't mean much but no Weid, Bedford and Vanders.