Go the mighty Dees

being the two oldest clubs, we play the, I think it is called, History Round, later in the year.

Take your PC and watch each match online together with commentary on "demonland"

Think it is a bit of a furphy. Ricky will make a far more considered decision than that. If he wants to go, he wants to go. There is nothing we can do about it. But we are a long way from that. Let's enjoy the current ride, and Ricky is an enormously enjoyable part of that.

I personally hope junior will be there next year, maybe the year later as well. He is in the best form of his career, and is an inspiration to our young guys. Go junior

For me, Garland to the forward line, Rivers down back, Drop Bennel

there is always a first time. A lot of our young guns have no history about this. there is no limit on their thinking and expectations and experience against NM. I think man for man we are superior to them and should win. We have in the past played well at the Dome there is no reason we shouln't again. NM are mid list at best....

I think it would be Cale for Bennel and would play Hff.

I think it would be Cale for Bennel and would play Hff.

yes i was there too. After the game he and wonna were walking just in frnt of us and he was very proppy and seemed to wince as he was walking. As it was his first game for more than a year I guess you would expect him to be a little bit sore but he did look to be in pain. Let's hope it was nothing more serious than mild cramp or something. I seem to remember that the club in their review of the game reported he played a half but pulled up a little bit sore afterwards. Cale Morton was interviewed on ABC before the Brisbane game and said the club has had him for months on a strict fitness regime including daily weight sessions. You would expect him to come back with a much more mature and bigger body. I agree with the last post I think he is one of our most talented players and especially when he is fully fit and bigger will fit into the forward line perfectly and be a real plus for us. It is all good.

I saw the game a Ballarat. I thought PJ was next best of the Melbourne list after Rivers. What I like about him is that he is big, mobile and really has a go, particular defensively, and is a good tap ruckman. Personally I think he is better at the moment than Martin. For mine Martin competed in the forward line, but didn't take a grab and does not as yet have good ball skills. He may do in the future, and I think is a potential leader at the club as he is apparently a natural leader and very smart intellectually, but he does need to earn his stripes like JW. For me i'd play Martin at Casey for the time being. I just think PJ gives us more at this stage. We also need some big bodies when our opposition come at us as they inevitably will. The kids need protection.

Not sure it was the media. I think the fans had a lot to do with it and still do. The media only reflects the market, and clearly a lot of people are interested in the success or otherwise of Jack Watts. Understandably The challenge though for the clubs and its fans is to get the best out of jack, and that means giving him space to develop and improve. He will not get a game in the seniors until he earns it. we are no longer giving specy places away if we want to be a serious finals contender. And we do, and we can be. The team is flying along nicely now so we dont need young jack. we will when he hits his straps, and i like you do not mind if that is next year. Let him be BOG at Casey a couple of times to get his confidence sky high, and then make an impact when he comes. the last thing we want is for him to come in, make little impact, then go back to the 2s. He will be a star. let's just give him time

I agree. He is most impressive. Hope he gets a run in the Casey seniors next week. He is doing everything asked of him and deserves a chance to show his wares on a bigger stage (as long as GC don't try and pinch him in view of next week's game venue!!!)

I think this team is the best Queensland raised players. Miller may well be one of the best Queensland players, along with Petterd, Riewolt etc

My understanding is father/son trumps all preferencial draft choice eg if jack trengove was the son of an ex magpie player with 50+ games then they would have first call on him as long as the kid agrees. That applies to GWS as well. If the tiger with number one draft pick in 2012 pick him then we could trump them under father/son. Not a bad deal. I imagine he would be a bit like maloney. A great pick up. just think - Viney, scully, trengove, watts, grimes, morton, jurrah, petterd, frawley - all superb young guns. Very exciting.Who will be able to match us in an expanded competition?

It won't happen.....and it shouldn't happen. Bruce is too important in a number of ways, not least cos of his on field leadership and his consistent blanketing of key forwards

Yes he was heavily tagged for thwe first three quarters til he broke free in the last. it will be something he and Tenners will have to live with from now on. Anyway, it means that the opposition if they are tagging two of our young guns they won't be able to match our "highway" in the corridor. As the commentary said "Demons - the transition kings". I would bck our tow in any case to out run any tagger, especialy Scully. It is looking good

Let's hope the Dogs and the Saints have a relentlessly running, bruising close encounter, for us to destroy them the week after. The kangas wont be easy though.

I reckon we can win 6 of the next seven, with some key players such as Morton, Wonna and Rivers coming back over the next four weeks. But the way the Blues played today they seem to have taken a leaf out of our playbook although if the Cats had have kicked straight it may well have been a different story. The Blues though in my book still lack in some key areas where we excel eg their mid field is not excessively quick, they go round the flanks instead of the corridor and they rank mid list in terms of tackling. They are beatable.

Bruce, along with Junior, Greeny, Maloney and Davey provide vital on field leadership to a very young but brilliant team. I suggest without all of them stepping up over the last couple of weeks since the first round, both from a playing and leading perspective, we would still be cellar dwellers. A lot of our improvement has come from the commitment from these guys, and all credit to them. They will be vital in providing onfield guidance especially when some of the better teams take a close look at our winning game plan (and make no mistake they all will examine it with a fine tooth comb, as well as take a close look at how to cambat our younger brigade)) and try and knock us off our game by targeting our brilliant youngsters. Tom Scully was reasonably quiet for the first three quarters on saturday because he attracted a strong tag, which he eventually broke and played a blinder in the final quarter. This will only get worse, and be applied to Trengove as well. The likes of Warnock and Jamar will be important in the protection of the young. I notice on a couple of ocassions over the last couple of weeks Jamar has stepped up when the likes of Brown, Fevola and Mcleod have tried that one.

Very good point, and we wouldn't be improving as quickly as we are. How fast has the Blues improved since his arrival and what is their upside. I'd say they have peaked, and their internal culture is still as disfunctional as ever. We'll win a flag before them.

Occasionally, Tenners looked slow on Saturday, but that was more due to tiredness than anything else particularly towards the end of the third quarter. He had played blinder up until then and continued to do so in the last quarter. His skills are sublime. Anyone look at the replay of one of the best passages of play all night when Chip ran through a Fav tackle on the outer half back flank, handpassed to Bruce and via a series of quick handpasses eventually ended with tenners on the wing who did a superb look away 30m handpass to davey who ran onto the 50m line handpassed to a running Sylvia who slotted it through from 40 on an angle. IMO the best play of the night and left the commentary box shouting "the Demons - the transition kings". We are in for some exciting times

Totally agree. I saw the game on Saturday at Ballarat, and IMO JW is nowhere near ready for a senior recall. He is an immensely talented raw recruit. We are now finals contenders and we have no room in the real stuff for players to learn on the job. Let him settle in to casey, gain confidence, and have two or three BOGs for Casey and earn his recall. He is a long way from that now. If we were struggling in the one's then perhaps a speculative recall could be justified for the future.we are not in that position. In fact, totally the opposite. There is intense competition for places, and each has to be earnt. Jack's time will come but I suggest not in the first half of the year.

d 100% agree with your post enforcer. Rivers is in scintillating form at Casey and Garland would provide a terrific additional target up forward. I think it is important that if players show great form in the 2s that they can be rewarded with promotion. Rivers has done that and is a proven performer on the big stage. This only applies of course if ricky is out, otherwise no change for mine. Unfortunately no room for Bail.

Yes it was clearly highlighted and replayed on television at the time. Tony Shaw in commentary (also a legendary sledger) said at the time that mcgrath may regret this by the end of the match In view of the current score. He suggested that bennel might like to go up to him at the final siren and point to the scoreboard. Unfortunately they didn't capture that!!!

it will be, and on a national stage