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The thing that irritates the hell out of me, is how long it will take to find out how we will respond, do we take learnings out of this, or something much worse, the manner of the loss really has me writhing in agony. I am impressed with the improvements and believe Goodwin when he says these are young men with their own destinies, but jezzus effing christ, really did they have to mess the bed like that. As of now I am going to choose to believe the coach and that we are more than that, but I really can't wait to see it, the next 7 months are going to be torture. I do also think it has been a year where we made huge strides and I want to thank PJ. I also think every player has tried their guts out and hope they have a ripper holiday and enjoy what they did achieve, which was plenty.

When the messenger only has balls for sniping, I am happy for anyone to mortar the crud out of him.

Agree with his overall value, but today's game was the kiss of death, he did exactly what we were worried an inexperienced player would do. As brave as I think he has been and as great as he is, I also think he now 'hears footsteps' and is no longer a one touch player. Keep him as a coach but Lever takes his place. This is not because he is slow either, he failed badly at the QB role today.

Hard to watch, just wanted to say a big thank you for all thr fans that made the trip to Perth. What will make me more than sad is if i see supporters giving up on us, we are back.

Scholars Lounge in Rome - would love some company...

Hi Red, Rance can do some brilliant things, fair enough, but with respect disagree re having in the side; Davis, Stewart, Hurn, Laird, McGovern are all players I would love before Rance, his acting really irritates the bejeezus out of me.

Beat me too it, not sacking the coach has paid off twice.

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I reckon they are going to revisit the double bye (end of r23 and winner of qual final), it does seem to be an advantage playing every week of finals in recent history.

I wish, J Smith if he brings a motorized step ladder, with that sort of delivery we will need Gawn dropping back. Every pie is up and about.

swelling causing pain, yes i think, but I'm not Webber, I had one, I reckon he has a meniscus tear my self.

The crowd shots have brought me back to earth, I really hate the Pies...

Do you think he is needled up, or they will do that at 1/2 time ? Either way even if they get up by a miracle he'll be rooted next week.

I feel dirty too... Jetta vs Cox, will be biggest story since David got a lucky one in against Goliath. But seriously Gawn better be watching this. Loved the call 'An American has dominated like this since Billy Graham at the G'.

are Keating, yes a good call the September specialist, was ridiculous how good he was in those finals games.

My dad, who was not without a clue about footy, always said you need a Ruckman in a Grand Final - would GAWN/GRUNDY be the best big man duel ever in a Grand Final????

IIIFFFF we make next week, I want to beat the Pies, I might be dead of a heart attack though, and for sure suffering every stress related condition ever. As a 3rd generation Demon, my hatred of the Pies is marrow deep, a hundred years of loathing. Collingwood has found another gear, running like we do, will be a ding dong context. I would like to see Rance get smashed by Viney though... in fact I wouldn't mind seeing him smashed tonight as well.

^^^ This, I was always worried about missing out on Dew, but have to say now there is a question mark when you see his shape. Of the finalists - Buckley/Simpson/Goodwin/Hardwick they all look to have terrific rigs, certainly worth respect, I wouldn't mind paying to see Goodwin Vs Buckley go at it on the weights. Clarkson carries himself well too, I reckon aerobically he'd even shade Goodwin, then again maybe not. Overall I would say we have the fittest coach in the current list (Buckley can't run because of his hamstrings). Thoughts on other coaches (I wonder if there is any correlation between the coaches fitness and how the team is going, Leigh Matthews and Mark Williams are the last slightly tubby Premiership coaches I can think of). Carlton - Bolton is an ant, but has no choice, cannot get fat as a small man and coach an AFL team. Footscray - Bevo's chest is close to slipping, but still has some serious guns. St Kilda - Alan is still trim. Freo - Lyon looks very unhealthy - on a par with Dew, looks like he needs viagra. Brisbane - Fagan doing ok for an old fella, I would want to play for this guy. Essendon - Worsfold lost weight this year, looks like he could still bench a 100, maybe weight loss drugs?. Sydney - Horse has been getting heavier, he's well past his 102 kg playing weight, could this herald a slide in the Sydney list. GWS - Leon is getting soft around the middle, maybe not the example for GWS's colts? North - Brad has been fighting turning into Dew, has slipped and recovered (I know what that is like, the slipping part) Geelong - Chris needs a big preseason - his skinfolds would be worse than mine and he's 6 years younger. BTW.... If you think I am procrastinating at work you are correct.

Serious, respectful question, why not both? I see us becoming a great club again as more opportunity to enjoy our history as well, instead of feeling like it is faded glory.

Well Done for mine, super impressed at how the club has managed the media and made itself available. They have absolutely harnessed everything positive about the finals campaign, am still working my way through the videos (love seeing shots of happy fans). I haven't seen it as drinking bathwater or any of the similar tall poppy type comments, but allowing everyone to enjoy the positives of the journey. I also think Goodwin has really given of himself which must be pretty tough, but he has demonstrated allot of nouse, he kept a lid on it for the season but has shown the insight to make himself available and tune into the vibe going on around the club. He has built a team of hockey players not downhill skiers for mine, they have demonstrated courage all year and am super proud of the club. Win, lose or draw on Saturday very happy with how the club is travelling.

Write LeCras's obit now

Agree-Fritsch's disposal always seems calm, I really rate how composed he is and i think there are synergies with team mates because of that. But not in the FD so what do i know. I think it would be mighty tough call, I think he has done his job better than Smith can and he'd be a bit sad at getting dropped.

Jacquelyn is certainly a possibility, her Son is Maximilien so we have Gawn covered.

Thank you-My partner is Olivia so got that covered already

Almost in tears reading this thread, is incredible how much we weave the fate and fortune of the club into our own lives to mark significant and very personal events, feel very close to all of you. I will be going batsh1t crazy here in Rome. We have our daughter due next Monday and in my mind the good fortune of expecting a healthy daughter is linked to how thehr club is going. And i know how objectively stupid that sounds, I'm even reconsidering the name should we salute in the GF.