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I was making a joke comparing us to the Italians... they are way too busy with the mirrors to care about our politics

Funny, just an aside but I took that to mean that Turnbull didn't like the left (which I would agree with), not that he was a smelly lefty. Personally as a dirty, tree hugging, rabbit patting, rice guarding, refugee helping, amarone sipping, but not a bloody vegetarian, humanitarian, Turnbull was the first right wing PM that could at least be unifying for the country since I don't know when. Even if I couldn't vote for him, I could respect him as someone that had made his own way in the world and was not just an entitled b@stard. I also respected his family life, as silly and as old fashioned as that is, was more important than him having an ego the size of a pyramid. But what the recent days bring home, and really frustrates me, were the reminders of the massive own goals by the labour party, Rudd not working and delegating to his team throwing away a brilliant mandate to continue with some progressive policies and then white anting Julia out of bitterness when she was getting on with business (passing more legislation in a minority government than any bloke since WW2). This has led labour into having a total windsock in Bill Shorten, who I cannot respect, and I can't vote green because besides some environmental and progressive policies, they have a flat earth approach to the economy, and I can't support policies that don't make employment the primary consideration, otherwise things get violent, regardless of how much welfare you deliver. @Earl Hood you are not in the cafe business are you (recent 30 year work anniversary)?

Hey mods, (@grapeviney) just a query, is there some sort of grace period that we can chat politics? this is a good moment to have a chat? Don't want to be banned leading into Finals but wish to join @Dieter and @Jara in some jolly lefty gloating at the lunar right sinking one of the few reasonable liberal politicians. Here in Rome, the Italians and Belgians are laughing at us. also this gem from titus if you haven't seen it/subscribed... We live in a rare world where Richmond are more stable than our democracy. I remember when being Prime Minister was a stable job and being Richmond coach was a short-term position.

Salem's kicking skills are on par with Travis Johnstone or Aaron Davey. Harder than TJ but not quite the mover that AD was.

Salem then Fritsch are the best kicks, Hogan and Hibberd = 3rd for field kicks That said Petracca is the most likely to improve his technique, reminds me of Happy Gilmore either nails it or murders it, super frustrating.

Was stunned on AFL 360, Robbo slammed Dutton saying he'd be a disaster and then got Gerard to agree!!! On a Fox show... Never seen such a bold call on a non sporting issue. Had a good laugh at how uncomfortable Gerard was, I think he knew they were well off the reservation.

Thanks DOF I didn't know about it until I read this post. I liked the introduction, 'Melbourne Star', he really is, and spoke beautifully, talked about being accessible, amazing stuff. Can't wait to see his first finals game, will be breathing fire and eating forwards of all descriptions. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/be/El_coloso.jpg/543px-El_coloso.jpg

I just wish the idiots like Eddie, etc., hadn't commented/used her gender when attacking her, as gender has nothing to do with her being a nasty spiteful person, and she really deserved to be taken down a peg or two. Now any criticism of her is seen through a gender lens (and to be fair the need to fix gender issues/inequality in society is far far more important than football) but I really wish she could be called out for peddling so much unkind merde.

So I think it is the metres gained that will go up further over two years (so yes improvement still to be had IMHO), I also think his team mates will learn to play better to him, so to speak, (and I already think that is an improvement this year), so the question/observation will be, is he better, his team mates better, or has he made his team mates better (my pick) BTW did anyone notice that Brayshaw is doing the over the head handpass now (did it in the 4th Qtr I think) , straight out of Olivers playbook.

You personally know Fitz? 5 years for a comeback is some stoney dry revenge...

Damn, you stole my material

Serious Question: Oliver had less possessions, but I thought was super damaging (starting more effective chains of possession) on the weekend so he got 4 votes for me and I was debating 5., in many ways I thought the game marked a new level for him actually. Donc. What do you think - Is Clarry as good as he gets?, or is he just a new player who still has another two years of progression before he really hits (his personal) straps? I realized I had thought he had reached his potential sooner than most, I now think he in two years will be even better.

I too was down on Melksham, yet again Goodwin demonstrates he wasn't playing favourites and knew what he was doing. Is very nice to eat this sort of pie. In stellar company as well ?...

This shocked me, he must have been injured when I last saw him play as I remember thinking he was too slow and it was a perception I still carried so thanks for the correction. He certainly kept his strength, I thought he was a little lucky not to get some more HTB against him but I really love the way he stands up in a tackle, has some strength that is for sure.

Is just like when 6 speed gear boxes became a thing...

@Demonland always meant to ask, when you post totals does that mean voting is closed? if not: 6.Gawn 5.Harmes 4.Oliver 3.Melksham 2.Brayshaw 1.Jetta

Agree, was a bit worried about the flip side as well if we had faltered at the line, perception is a big thing. It may be fugazi but it has a documented effect.

I had a tear(s) in my eye reading this (well written), am with my two babies in Geneva for the weekend, so couldn't watch game,yet. Followed the score and the MFCSS (Gameday) thread, was only kept sane by how much I love being with my kids) caved in the last 4 min to watch the finish on my app (on skype with the older kid who was running around the room with hysterical happiness). Now in the very serious position of playing finals and my partner about to give birth in 5 weeks, I think the compromise will be a new and very large TV.

I really was hoping this post contained information to help me cope with Sunday, took ne 4 days to log onto the site.

hey very sorry to miss this, will PM you, short answer no but i can share my app

Nah I want them to lose twice in a row, no way I want to play a final in Perth.

I think I have the answer - there is a high correlation to our score assists and lack of selfishness. This team first attitude is the reason, players check for who is in the very best position and pass it, even if they are a reasonable chance of dobbing the goal themselves.

No not from WCE.

If (and it is a huge 'if') WCE had some class they would foot the entire medical bill. I reckon they should raise the issue on AFL360, WCE has stunk with how they have handled it so far.

Could you nuke his computer anyway, obviously been watching Punisher on Netflix.