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We are far too politically correct now. While I do miss some of those grounds I do not miss windy hill and people pissing in bottles because you could not leave your spot. Everyone complains about visits to Collingwood I think Windy hill was the pits, easily the worst ground and supporters!

Probably but at least we are not discussing JW. Oh god why did I say that.

I cannot remember but how many times did we wear it this year? I think the only games I went to were Carlton at the "G" and the Brisbane game. There were obviously others I just do not remember them. Probably indicates that I have got used to it and the AFL has seduced one!

Don't feel sorry for me I have had my share of good days and expect to have a lot more even if they are in a white jumper ( sorry could not help myself )

Daisycutter lets get this straight I like everyone else would much prefer to play every game in our red and blue jumper. I do not want to play in the white jumper! I just think we are spitting into the wind.

I do not think so but I could be wrong I can remember the occasions when I was wrong( just a joke there ). Would you stay away from a preliminary final because the dees were wearing their white jumper? Let me know I will take your seat. Perhaps I am just cynical but I do not believe peole would stay away because of the white jumper.

Sorry I missed that one, Western oval was not big on my list of grounds to go to.

I guess we will know next year! I know it is very important to you and a lot of others but I have got used to it and as long as we win I will endure it.

You want my thoughts ( which you probably don't ) I think it is not too far off. It may be ten years but guess what finishing first or second will bring in the future!!!! You get to wear your normal jumper throughout the finals and the others have to wear white where there is a clash!!! Now remember I am only the messenger.

Gee I am realy glad I raised this subject! There are a lot of you out there with missonary zeal when the white jumper gets mentioned. Must watch who's car I step in front of in the future. Actually like to be around when we salute next time.

PS WYL there is a little light blue in the GWS jumper. However it is predominately red/ orange jumper with Yellow and Light blue.

Perhaps my eye sight is worse than I thought.I remember that the GWS is Red and yellow. I will now have to go and look! Have not seen anything suggesting GWS is red and Blue Have I missed it? Now please do not get upset WYL but a think you are being little bit paranoid!

There are IMO two clubs at present that need a lot more criticism than they are getting i.e. Board / Management (1 Essendon, the group that extended Knights contract and then one year later sack him at the expense of $1million + should be shown the door. This must go close to the worst management decision of the last ten years. (2 Brisbane how could you give Fev that size deal without any clause relating to how he behaves while under contract. They had two key forwards who kicked almost 150 goals in 2009, so you release one of them for a problem waiting to happen. Lets not forget he was flung by Carlton for numerous problems over a long period. The board who agreed to this should resign. Not to mention the size of his contract that is now destroying their list. Never ceases to amaze me that Coaches and players get it in the neck but very seldom Board members or CEO

Sorry Demon Hill I have attached my comments to the wrong person. Re the Saints, you maybe right. I think that over the last ten years a lot of Melbourne supports have just assumed the MFC would always exist in spite of the fact we were $5 million in debt. During 2007 I thought we were destined to become the "Western Sydney Demons" and I still think that was a big possibility as far as the AFL was concerned. Fortunately a guy called Jim Stynes came along and dragged a hell of a lot of MFC supporters into the real world. If not for him and the movement he helped create I truely Believe that is were we would have been in 2011. Believe me the MFC has been part of my life for a long time and will I hope be for a lot more years.

Good point I do not know how old you are! lets just say I was there in 64, seems a long time ago unfortunately! It is your energy to burn. obsessions are not always a waste of energy, I have one too it is the MFC and trying to make sure the Dees are around when I am not. If by some chance you win this one I will be at the front of the queue cheering, just do not see it happening.

Daisycutter for what my advise is worth fight a battle you have a small chance of winning. You are wasting valuable energy on this one. Our Club has conceeded, you can complain here until you are as old as me ( I hope not ) nothing will change. Carn the Dees

I am struggling with what you do not understand. The TV industry wants one team to play in a predominately white strip. The TV industry provides the majority of the money that make the wheels go round. The AFl wants the money to continue and increase. As a result they will give the TV industry the majority of what they want, Almost anything to keep the money flowing especially now we have two new costly teams in QLD and NSW. Re your comment On the AFL not existing without the MFC. That has not been the case for at least the last 40 years I think you are grossly over stating our strenght in the scheme of things. The AFL would struggle without Collingwood, Essendon, Carlton, St Kilda, Adelaide, West Coast and Sydney. It would go on quite well without the MFC, I love the Dees as much as anyone else on this site however we do not matter that much.

Hi "Jack" Not sure why I am making this post but here goes! From my discussions with MFC people earlier in the year they said that that the AFL Want all clash / Away jumpers to be a basis white Jumper with minor club additions. Hence this years jumper with red and blue trimmings. I again asked the same person this morning and nothing has changed. We can fiddle with the trimmings but basic white remains. There is no compromise from the AFL that is the requirement. Their long term plan is to have all clubs with this same basic design. i.e. white jumper with club trimmings! A couple of clubs are hold outs however the AFL will get their way in the long term. It is a subject that the MFC sees as a no win situation. I was told when we have $5 million in the bank and have won the last two premierships we might have some bargaining power. Until then forget it "we need the AFL more than they need us". We all just need to suck it in and get on with winning a flag because that is all that matters.

After taking into account that this years draft is a seriously comprised one and listening to Cam Schwab last night I think we will only make the min. number of draft picks Which I think is three! We have a lot of picks from the previous couple of years that have not had a run due to injury etc. e.g.Sam Blease. I think 2011 will be about seeing which of the current crop of untried players can cut it at AFL level. So a couple of players we all assume will go e.g. PJ may stay on the list for another year.

Could not agree more "Hangon007" God help me for raising this but!!!!! His comment re the clash jumper was interesting! What I got from the comment was similar to this year but with a little tinkering. So A white jumper with trimings in red and Blue. ( I can now endure it ) Please do not go off at me, just my interpretation

My goodness! Guys I just asked what I thought was a simple question as to were Sam Blease was at? Turned into the most heated discussion since the last Watts thread. Time to lighten up a little guys! Thanks everyone for info on his injury. Cannot remember who said it but with a solid preseason and no more serious injuries we will know if Sam Blease is the goods this time next year.

That last line probably covers it. It amazes me that people like Fev have a great talent and screwed it all up. God I wish I had been given half his skill!

Incredibly charitable "Demons 32" The guy is a walking disaster. Obviously has problem with the frothy stuff. Ever time he has a problem it is involved. As they say in the classics " if he could not play football you would not feed him". Need to join AA

Nothing E25. Just wondering where he is at! Just asking the question does anyone know his situation re the leg. Has the smell of "Nathan Brown" about it to me. He had a very bad break and has obviously taken a long time to recover if he has at present.

There is a press release on Lions web site, press conference at 3.30 Radio just said he has been suspended by Lions until investigation is completed. Does not sound good.