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Don't know which leg. It's not really an injury you can carry and get away with. I reckon all our players are kicking more on the non-preferred this year. Seems to have been a focus pre-season.

This. The tear in quads is always the rectus femoris, the long muscle which goes over the hip and knee joints. It's usually recovers very quickly to allow full speed sprinting, but is held back by being the prime mover in kicking. The thing in Jones' favour is his resilience, so we can be sure his healing rate is about as good as a 29 year old's can be.

Can't tell you how I know, but this is rubbish at Trump-levels.

Win this Friday and we'll go three-peat. Lose and I'm back to wondering how we could possibly make the finals. No flag in my lifetime (born the year after we won the last) has played all sorts of havoc with my rationality, something I think only a premiership will cure.

Likely, but depends what 'gone' means. Gone for walking down the street or sprinting after a football.

Genius.

On the hamstring issue, broadly there are only two reasons for hamstring pain and tightness. Firstly referral from the low back, which has no time frame on recovery. Could be a day, could be ongoing and frustrating. The other is a tear, of which the severity spectrum is broad, from small and undetectable on MRI or US scan (? Jack Watts), to big rips or avulsions (Max Gawn). For ANY hamstring tear, as minor as they are, it is a mandatory 3 weeks, no exceptions. The reason for this is that statistically the risk of a worse re-tear under 3 weeks is unacceptably high. Hopefully Jack Watts, Salem's and Jeffy's are back related, otherwise they'll follow this management, sadly. If Jack Viney has injured his Acromioclavicular (AC) joint and it's structurally stable (which it must be, as he came back on after a jab), playing relates to being able to play with any pain. Jack won't miss, I'd say.

I reckon you might have had the best supporter experience tonight, and that's saying something!

Stil waiting for the maggots to somehow take it off us.......

It's an embarrassment to our game, and the biggest blight on the AFL that the powers that be can't remedy the umpiring dilemma in the west. When so much else about the way the game is run creates an even playing field for all clubs, this sort of stuff just kills it stone dead. I don't know what the answer is though.

Actually it was a perfect sling tackle. Arm pinned, spun and slung with no opportunity for the tackled player to protect the head hitting the turf, which it did. The only reason he wasn't reported is because Dom got straight up for the kick.

As we all know, you're fighting a 4 goal umpiring bias in the west, and you'll never see a more obvious example than Jeffy's perfect dispossessing tackle in that last bit. The very definition of spineless, unaccountable umpiring.

Given our ability to avoid heavy defeats this year, the line at 18.5 would have seemed attractive. 5.5 not so much.

Happy mowing odm, but I reckon your formula has actually nailed the true order of teams this year. Love your work, get on to Gill!

Just watched all the goals. Alex Neal-Bullen is in everything. He might go largely unrecognised here, but I reckon the selectors know exactly why he's getting a gig. And continuing to improve.

Agree both, Clint. Johnson was a great player, but can't hide his dogginess. BTW, did you enjoy Dom Tyson's goal on Sunday? Hit it bang on the 50 metre line, landed it by my rough count 7 rows back. So what, 60-65 metres? Makes him comfortably one of the longest kicks at the club I'd reckon. Whaddya say? Oh, no tail wind either ?

That's the context that all those dissing Oscar have failed to apply. He's going to be huge for this club, as he showed yesterday. Consistency comes with age and experience, particularly for a KPP. Too many of us just fail to allow for the bumps and imperfections along development road, thus having to make an about face when those players start reaching their potential. We do it to so many young players, but never learn it seems.

If there is any hint of a hammy tear, and he'll be scanned, he won't play for 3 weeks. Sounds harsh, but is non-negotiable these days, and for reasons of reducing recurrence and chronic behaviour. Jones quad another story. If it settles and he gets through training, he'll play.

I reckon this game's all above the shoulders. Depends whether the young Dees are inspired to consolidate on a sniff of finals action, or are still celebrating the high of QB. Tending toward the latter, based on history, but the odds seem out of whack despite this.

The fact he has this out of the box acceleration has interesting knock on effects. Firstly, his team mates expect it with greater familiarity, and either set up to take the give-and-go handball, or marshall for the long bomb, mark or crumb. The more they play together, the more this becomes a system that is almost impossible to combat. The bigger benefit is that he creates panic defence in the opposition, much like Petracca and Jeffy are doing, where despite knowing they can't catch him, they'll chase and try to limit his running line, thus coming off their man and allowing the chain of uncontested linking handballs that Hunt is so often a part of. It's an exceptional talent, and we haven't seen the best of it yet methinks. Also, he's as hard as a cat's head.

Your argument is great, except Tyson is one of the longest kicks in the team! FMD.

Good tribute to Flanners writing by Russell Jackson in The Guardian : https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/jun/14/the-loss-of-martin-flanagans-afl-column-is-a-blow-to-footys-soul

So many problems with this draft oversimplification and failure to account for the exceptions, that it doesn't warrant rebuttal. You obviously thought my last sentence of satirical hyperbole was a serious comparison though, which is a worry. Your claim that Oscar "CONTINUOUSLY makes errors, is slow to react and looks COMPLETELY and UTTERLY out of his depth" is some of the best hyperbole I've seen, and clearly nonsense.

I was right behind him, and I loved it. Was never in doubt, and I mean it.

For some on here binman, Oscar's card is stamped. They'll never see beyond his imperfections, but will nevertheless expect something closer to perfection than for other 'favoured' players. As you so accurately make the point, some of those other favoured players made mistakes that were just as significant yesterday. There's just no eliminating subjective bias, so Oscar will continue to get a bagging unless he miraculously morphs into a cross between Matthew Scarlett, Glen Jakovich and Gary Hardeman.