Webber

In an age of James Frawleys and Tom Scullys, Jack Watts shows what true clubmanship is all about. This is the kind of loyalty, patience and hard work that builds team culture and cohesiveness. Along with Nate Jones, Jack Viney and Max Gawn, his devotion to the Dees is something we haven't seen for a good while.

Nailed it.

Why should we beat them every time? They're a better team than us by every measure. This idea that we're better than St. Kilda is just delusional. Please tell me how you work it out?

What are we?

I'll say it again because there's little else to say. They are faster, more skilled,smarter and cleaner than us. The Saints WILL finish higher than us this year because they are a BETTER TEAM.

That's irrelevant against US. They're just much better than us. MUCH.

FFS!!!! We are NOT better than them. How much evidence do you all need. They're not just better, they're 30 points better at least. Results DON'T lie!

If only it were just that, deanox.

We're not even vaguely competitive.

Except they're just about to prove it for the second time, while only starting in the second quarter.

They don't take group psychology/hoodoos into account when making odds, otherwise we'd be $10 roughies.

It's irrelevant.

Here's the thing, the Saints best is six or more goals better than ours, but inconsistency has killed their season. They also know that if they go hard at us, we'll melt like butter, and either overuse the ball more, or just bang away, both behaviours that they set up for and then burn us with quick hands and speed. As much as I hate it, they're just that much better than us, with the added ability of being able to make us look like schoolchildren. Steven, Armitage, Riewoldt, Montagna are also all better than any of our best players.

It's gonna get a whoooolllle lot uglier.

Three times in the last 5 minutes they've had a player loose 40meters from the kick out with nobody anywhere near them.

You'd think we'd work it out, huh? They're now winning every position on the ground, and we have no reply.

Exactly this. They just know they can beat us, and it gives them the kind of confidence that will do for us every time. Game over.

How these mugs are on top of the ladder defies my understanding. They train in the wind, have an enormous number of AFL listed players, and yet the two times I've seen them play this year they play incredibly dumb footy. Almost unwatchable in fact.

Will end up as one of the Melbourne greats. Whilst loyalty is rarer than ever these days, it's far more precious. We're developing a team who love playing for each other, and dare I say it, the jumper too! Well done Jack, Roosy, Simon Goodwin, PJ, Josh Mahoney, Brendan McCartney and the whole team.

Must have been someone else in No.12 I saw kick right foot 40 metres down the wing to Jack Watts then.

....and we're cooked. Sad to say I think experience might win for the Dockers from here. Two players down and no more petrol tickets.

If his hamstring 'tightness' is back related, i.e. referred, he'll play. If muscular, he's no chance, and three weeks gone.

That's just not true. This is a horrible unaccountable performance, second to the ball with weak heartless tackling.

2 stats : marks and tackles. Means they're getting a lot of it without pressure, and we're just not up for the competitive physical game. Coupled with some phenomenally dumb football, it's a sorry sorry sight.

It's amazing that on such a small ground with so much rain that the Swans can be given so much easy space, time, and access to goal by us. Just woeful dumb football. Any chance we had to use the conditions as a leveller have just shown us up.