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For those interested, I am also tallying the results ("unofficially") using a wider sample of 10. The votes as of the end of Round 5: 1. N Jones - 226 2. Tyson - 116 3. Cross - 94 4. Dunn - 91 5. Frawley - 84 6. Watts - 65 7. Viney - 61 8. Dawes - 40 9. McDonald - 39 10. Pedersen - 37 11. Grimes - 36 12. Howe - 29 13. Spencer - 23 14. Vince - 22 15. Georgiou - 20 16. Bail - 18 17. M Jones - 17 18. Byrnes - 10 19. Toumpas - 9 20. Terlich - 8 Trengove - 3 JKH - 2 Best 5 per round (in order) Rd 1: Watts, N Jones, Dunn, Tyson, Vince Rd 2: N Jones, Dunn, Tyson, Cross, Frawley Rd 3: Tyson, Pedersen, Howe, McDonald, Cross Rd 4: N Jones, Frawley, Grimes, Spencer, Bail Rd 5: N Jones, Viney, Dawes, Frawley, Cross Most consistent (tally of top 5ers) N Jones - 4 Cross - 3 Frawley - 3 Tyson - 3 Dunn - 2 Watts - 1 Vince - 1 Viney - 1 Dawes - 1 Pedersen - 1 Howe - 1 McDonald - 1 Grimes - 1 Bail - 1 Spencer - 1 I will update this each week.

Simplistic nonsense. No wonder your misery knows no bounds. If you are capable of looking little further than the result, the margin was 8 points. Last year on the G it was 60. Unless you didn't watch the game (which wouldn't surprise me given your previous admission to not watching games), the improvement is clearly there. It is a team coming from a very, very long way back. You stamping your foot and demanding tough decisions does not change that fact. Calling the Suns "Ablett and a bunch of kids" is also an idiotic appraisal of a team in its 4th year that is widely tipped to be pushing for the 8 this year. They are in fact currently 8th. The profile of their list compared to ours has been pointed out to you, but that doesn't suit your wallowing in loathing. WYL's prediction of doom #456. I'm so over your garbage. Your constant negativity is a plague. You can't stop subjecting the forum to this complex you've developed.

I can't wait to see what Riley does at the top level. 10 tackles and 25 touches. Machine.

Hawkins used to be one of the running jokes in the AFL. Now he is one of the elite key forwards in the AFL. He is one of the reasons why I won't give up on Wattsy.

No-one is saying it is acceptable. You are saying there are NO positives to be taken from the game because of a very poor quarter which no rational person would agree with. We have been in 4 out of 5 games up until the last quarter. From where we are coming from, which is MILES behind the bulk of the competition, that is a positive step forward. You don't fix a trainwreck overnight.

...I know a guy.

The only way he's coming here is with a gun held to his head. If he leaves Adelaide it will be for success, and fairly immediate success.

The long awaited fade of the Cats is only going to happen once Johnson, Bartel, Enright, Taylor and co retire, and even then it's no guarantee. A truly enviable footy club.

How does one quarter cancel out the other three? That makes absolutely no sense.

They also move the ball so much quicker. Every player from Mitchell to Hill. The moment they take the mark they are looking for an option. They don't run backwards 10 metres, stop, turn around, and then assess. Effort and confidence. Yes there are less skill errors, but it is the other two factors that are so pivotal.

Have to say that Cheney looks totally out of his league in this game.

Out: Georgiou, Evans, Spencer In: Garland, Salem, Jamar

We need a lot more from Bernie. He was arguably the standout player in the nab cup, and hasn't been much chop since. He needs to lift next week.

I tune out Watts posts these days. Best to form your own opinion because there's just too much noise on what he does or doesn't do. He was far from the worst player out there imo.

6. Jones 5. Viney Daylight 4. Frawley 3. Cross 2. Pedersen 1. Dawes

I'm amazed at those who say it wasnt an improvement. The second half was watchable. That alone is a significant improvement.

On days like today you get to see just how good he is. He should make the squad at least. He's a [censored] gun.

Free to Ablett was a complete joke but you take the good with the bad. Should've won it. Didn't. An improvement.

Incredibly frustrating if true. Will wait for confirmation before cursing at the footy gods.

lol..like your "critical feedback" is so in depth. Maybe you should pass on your "critical feedback" to Roosy. "Not good enough" should cover it. You haven't even suggested an alternative course of action to elevating him. What would that be, by the way? When a player gets given a new lease with a rookie elevation, and you go on a numerous page rant about how ordinary that player is before he's even played a game, you should expect to be called on it.

I agree on Pickles as sub. He hasn't done enough to get a full run (I'd possibly have dropped him for Toumpas but happy either way). Give Jetta a start while he's in form. And to [censored] off jumbo.

Yes. "Too slow", "a good Casey player" "lucky to be on AFL list"...how is that NOT dumping on him? And your timing in doing so is poor. Everyone is aware he has limitations, you're not splitting the atom there. You've been told that his fitness, physique and overall game has improved this year. You disregard that and make ten more posts about how ordinary he is. Many on this list deserve, and in Jetta's chance earned, another chance under Roos. You could at least wait untilhes played A game under Roos before casting him out.

"We"? The only one I see talking him down here is you. The guy gets elevated to the senior list and you ring in the news by dumping all over him. Time and place.

Between this and the guy who reckons Cameron Ling is the worst option as coach because he's too ugly, Demonland is firing on all cylinders at the moment.

Haha..seriously dude, are you for real? Not that it even remotely matters, but he is clearly comfortable being on camera unless you live under a rock and aren't aware of his media role. He also has a stunning missus and runs a very successful construction company, from what I hear. So his appearance that offends you so much has had no bearing on his successes.