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And people think the club threw Jack Watts under a bus ... “LoGiudice: There are different skill-sets that we believe are required. There are certain aspects of leadership we believe Trigg didn't have.”

Bernie was "let go" by the Crows and didn't have much say in it.

This isn't about what's going on on-field.

Where have his faults been listed? It's all fairly generic stuff about "getting the most out of himself" etc. As for the public humiliation part, well, if you don't want public humiliation, don't participate in a highly mediatised sport. Getting dropped to the seconds is nothing if not a public humiliation, as is getting delisted, not to mention the parading before the court of public opinion of every player who commits an off-field indiscretion. It comes with the job. In the grand scheme of things, saying "We need more from Jack" is pretty tame.

Not just the sporting world.

Perhaps check the WADA rules.

Yes and no. It's not for nothing that we have a whole Football Department and a List Management team.

Laughable.

Yes, crazy idea. It'll never get us anywhere.

That's not the bottom line. It's a recipe for mediocrity, and as I posted earlier, it's a miserably low bar to set for a 9-year player.

Have always been a Watts fan and defender. But it's clear that his nice guy/party boy side has become problematic as we try to build a premiership-contending club and culture. Nothing against him personally, don't even begrudge him not wanting to go the extra mile and really put in with his preparation etc. After all, he's got this far on being a supremely talented great bloke, I can understand him thinking "why bother?". And who could blame him? Not me in any case.

"It is a really important stage where Jack is at as an experienced player at the footy club with the amount of games he has played, with such a young list, he has a big influence on our young players." i.e. Watts is a negative influence that we don't want around the place anymore.

Watts would still be first 22 in all those teams. While he's not doing what he should/could, he still has currency, especially if some kind of bidding war starts up.

FFS, read the original series of tweets. That's not what the trade is. It''s effectively an upgrade of 10 for 5, which would cost us O Mac.

See above. That's not what's being proposed, not in isolation anyway.

Read the thread/posts. The offer is apparently 10 + O Mac to Freo for pick 5.

As has been posted previously, and as Goodwin, Jones and now Mahoney confirmed, this isn't (really) about Watts' on-field performance.

The Nixon Tweet is a nice way of putting a rocket under Adelaide.

Chris Davies: "We still think we're in with a chance for Jack Watts until we hear otherwise." #NABTradeRadio (Port Adelaide)

.@MatthewLloyd18: "If I was Jack Watts' captain he would frustrate me ... he shouldn't be surprised he's in this situation." #NABTradeRadio

Phenomenal news on Lever if we can pull it off - which I'm sure we can, in spite of the huffing and puffing from Adelaide. He and Hibberd, the cornerstones of an AA backline.

Just what is it about this that people are not getting? It's clear that Watts has been asked and asked to cut back on the partying and take his footy and his preparation seriously. This has obviously been going on over a number of seasons and it's equally obvious that the FD and at least some of the senior players have had enough. Everyone here talks about Goodwin, but from what we know, this is also coming from the likes of Mahoney, Viney (senior), McCartney, and presumably, with the blessing of Jackson and the Board. To ask a player with the history, profile and popularity of Watts to leave is a huge decision, which just goes to show just how many bridges Watts has burnt and how fed up everyone is.

If being an ugly club that plays hard, ugly, uncompromising footy gets us a premiership, fine by me.

Not the point. None of the on-field stuff is the point. It's about whether or not a player is doing everything he can to get the most out of himself. T Mac, yes. Watts ... clearly, no.

Agree with this. The fact that Jack doesn't see what the problem is, IS the problem. Yet to hear him acknowledge that this is all down to him - though perhaps that's a conversation that's been had in private. Also fairly obvious from some of what Jack said today that this isn't just coming from Goodwin, it's club-wide. Hard to argue with "you give 100% on and off the field or you're out".