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91.7%. I rounded it off to 92. 91.7 felt too pedantic, but obviously not pedantic enough. In fact, it's 91.666 (repeating), as he managed to get 22 of his 24 disposals to their intended targets.

Hard to see pick 10 being enough.

Salem with a disposal efficiency of 92%, the highest of our team, that Salem?

No point listing players who already have contracts in place for next year, e.g. JKH and Garland. Not going anywhere unless they a) retire b) get traded. Agree with the main 4 names being thrown about. Hard to see Kennedy being kept on.

Thanks for that, excellent work. Pity Pedo isn't eligible, but great that Bugg and Brayshaw are/should be. On paper, a strong side.

Speak for yourself. Wallowing in self-pity isn't really my thing, but more to the point, achieves nothing. As a some of the more even-keeled posters have pointed out already, what we want/need is a systematic, methodical review of the whole season (not just one game), where, why and how we came up short, and what we're going to do to address it. This from the players through the medical/conditioning staff and boot-studders to the coaches, FD and Board. Which I'm sure is happening. As it would have in any case.

Brayshaw?

The season in a nutshell.

It's a mistake to bring the season down to just one game, as if a better first quarter against the Pies changes everything. It doesn't. We should never have been in that position (having to win the last game) in the first place, the damage - such as it was - was done earlier in the year, especially in those games where we had quarters (or halves) where we just didn't turn up. Making finals would have left us all feeling a lot better, but would only really have papered over the cracks. Perhaps there's some benefit in having our faces rubbed in our shortcomings, I'd hope so or else the loss to Collingwood (and North etc.) will have been for nothing. I do think the injury/suspension issues affected us a) through having important players out, but just as importantly b) creating a situation where there was a real lack of continuity in the structure of the side we were putting on the field each week. To take just one example, Tom Mac became an effective forward, but then he can't just return to the backline and be expected to perform as if he's been there all year, something which then has a flow-on effect through the whole team. On the other hand, that did create some opportunities for the developing players, so hopefully even there there's an upside further down the track. And I think that's the key here. The time to be assessing this season isn't now, it's in a couple of years. If looking back we can see that this season was the one that helped sort out the wheat from the chaff, understand the need for consistency, and put in place the building blocks for a serious tilt at a premiership, then it will have been a success, or at least an important stepping stone towards success. For the moment, hard to see or say. Plenty of positives, lots to like, moving in the right direction ... but only time will tell if we've been able to address some of our key weaknesses.

Probably not the moment, but can anyone list the Melbourne players eligible for Casey/VFL Finals?

Wearing a hair shirt.

Agree with the sentiment, but can we stop using girls (of any age) as metaphors for melodramatic, emotional etc. Though something's seriously wrong when showing that you're upset at missing out on an important event is a sign of weakness. And we wonder why more men than women have mental health issues.

This is just OTT hyperbole. Last I looked there were at least 50 shades in-between black (MFC can do no right) and white (MFC can do no wrong). Just because some of us aren't slashing our wrists ... Have said it before here: I don't know how some of you get through the day.

Read the story. It was talking about the atmosphere around the rooms with kids, families, fans etc., almost juxtaposing that with how the players were. They refer to Viney and his " dejected teammates, who emerged from behind closed doors" etc. etc. not to mention unnamed "club officials" who were trying to put a positive spin on it. From what I saw, the players looked gutted (as above). As Nathan Jones said "I feel sick in the stomach". But heh, carry on wrist-slashing.

I don't think for one moment any of the Adelaide players will be taking it easy. Almost certainly a spot in a grand final is at stake.

Yes. We're also an inconsistent middle of the road side, which is what seems to frustrate people here the most. Helped along today by a really poor first quarter (for whatever reason) coupled with some structural imbalances that they were able to exploit, in particular having two big talls who were able to play/float forward, and losing Hogan which left us improvising up forward. We had 8 more I50's, but still lost by three goals - but when the two H's, Hannon and Harmes manage just 10 kicks, 1 mark, and 1 goal between them ... it was never going to work.

I think Adelaide will win, and fairly comfortably. They have a couple of their stars out, but they're not top of the table on the back of just 2 players. Maybe the margin might come back a bit in the last quarter, but they're tuning up for a tilt at the premiership, and hard to see them just going through the motions.

There were also plenty that were horrible in terms of DE where it's not reflected in the stats.

Yes, but the big one missing there is Hunt. He consistently misses targets, and not just by a little. Agree with many of the previous comments about attack on the ball and players going missing, how could anyone not. But the biggest shortcoming for me is not being able to hit targets. It's what's behind our poor inside 50 conversion figures. We're getting the ball in there, but either they're just bombs, or we're not hitting up the forwards.

I'd be pleasantly surprised if we win. Yes, we're on top, but we've been leaking goals out the back all day. They've managed 3 goals a quarter for the last two, and no reason to think they won't do the same this one. I can see us getting 5 or so, but can't see us keeping them to 1 or 2 goals.

If Jayden Hunt could hit a target inside 50, we'd be unstoppable.

Hogan out. Tom MacD forward?

No point thinking about finals if we're going to play like this. We'd get blown out of the water first week. In reality, we haven't played well for 6 weeks or so, and it'll eventually find us out.

Or just kick the footy. Or even handball. His speed and dash looks great, but at the end of the day, he's arguably the worst disposer we have. Ineffective.

Hard to understand why they're playing like this. Just can't get going. When even players like Hibberd look off the pace you know something is wrong.