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A few? We have 2, worth about pick 60 combined

He’s the same player FFS.

The only way we’d need that is if we will use all 3 seconds to get both the Suns early picks

19 will be at least 28 by the time it gets used, still unders but a step in the right direction

Forget the off season, the in season was more distructive

Tracc is doing Tracc. Tim Lamb seemed delighted Spargo got a great deal at North. Oliver and May getting the push out - for a raft of reasons but also to open space in the team for young players. It’s very reflective of the need for change (and in itself is the change) but not that the place is a disaster. If it were going that badly I don’t think we’d have been able to draft a rookie like Judd and turn him in to a very competent afl player. One who could’ve been part of a good young crop already coming through. Loyalty is tricky because obviously each year clubs have no loyalty to the 10 or so they delist. But at the same time it’s actually better for players, teams, the comp in general if guys stick around. The US sports model of aggressive roster turnover isn’t healthy for anyone. And especially in the NBA it’s ended up with a heap of tanking teams that’s impacted the league financially.

I think there’s merit in the preferred position stuff, but at the same time 2 back pocket options in Hore and AMW got injured and Howes who was expected to improve and own the spot didn’t. So there were a few things conspiring against Judd playing back flank last year that could be fixed quickly. I suspect the bigger reason he’s gone is because Freo have laid out a clear path to finals footy for the next 5 or so years. They are so well placed to consistently be in the top 4 hunt. Meanwhile we aren’t. Some of which is natural regression after a run at the top. Guys like May, Gawn, Viney, Salem are slowing down no matter what and others like Lever have had repeat injuries. But there’s no doubt some of that decline is just poor management across the entire club. It’s disappointing a player plucked from the rookie list doesn’t show more loyalty. He was picked from obscurity and found himself a key cog in a contending top 4 side, even if just for a year. It’s particularly annoying after we’ve changed the board, ceo, coach, most assistants. We didn’t exactly need Judd to go to highlight the need for change!

I think the price was virtually free when announce he was free to look around. But the question will be who will make the move? Dogs and Pies that most obvious and they are apparently not keen. Sydney are getting Jai Serong. Carlton? Adelaide if they move Butts to the Dogs or Roos. It’s a limited list of teams that make sense.

Collingwood were forced in to a fire sale because they’d overpaid a bunch of players. Clarry’s life got tipped upside down when his girlfriend got sick of his [censored] and he went way off the rails. He’d just about never missed a game and was a super hard trainer. Easy to criticise it in hindsight but no one was saying it was a bad deal at the time. If there was a mistake it’s clear we tied our contracts to cap rises. Clarry’s 7 years 7 million bumped to 1.3/1.4 based on the cap rises. My understand is most teams did this so it’s not unique or damaging but Clarry would be easier to move if we just locked in a fixed price.

2 first and a second with some late stuff back is as good as you’ll see for any uncontracted player. More than we paid for Lever for example. How is that folding?

Only thing I didn’t like was Lamb offering any kind of apology for Oliver telling Cleary to get stuffed at the airport. Clarry would’ve been well within his rights to headbutt Mitch. Just despicable behaviour to go the airport to stalk someone who just got the sack. Every other journo should be ashamed at their industry. The vultures trying to make everything in to a cultural issue. The McVee question, genuinely laughable stuff!

It’s just content for contents sake to fill the media machine. But also each team manages their trade period like a big chess board and it’s still a time where clubs are evaluating all the pieces. I’m sure we’re still working on finding a couple of players to bring in, especially looking through the GWS, GC, Freo depth. If we aren’t getting a quality player out of the Suns (or anywhere else) then I can’t imagine we rush to do that deal. So rather than the usual Melbourne way of doing things quickly we might be dragging this out until the Suns pay the right price.

Be closer to 12 in the rookie draft. We’ve effectively sacked him, told him he’s likely to play for Casey and said we’ll pay over half his wage just to get his 5 year deal picked up by another club.

Completely disagree. The age difference and our desperation not to stink makes Humphrey as important to us. We’ll have to send the pick in any deal.

I don’t think Humphrey is leaving but I think his motivation for meeting with Vic clubs is exactly the above. He signed a long term deal at below what is now a big jump in the market. If Rowell, Anderson and Ben King all sign on long term plus Mac Andrew who already has the Suns are squeezed for guys they can pay huge money to. I still doubt they blink this year but clearly there’s doubt on whether he will stay long term and whether the Suns can afford him.

Another bummer is tightening the academy bidding and lowering the value of lesser picks means we can’t send them 3 second rounders for another one of their firsts tho. Probably get one early pick and one later first with some junk the other way.

Very similar to Butters with the cat like changes of direction and creative disposals.

Pick 7 and 900k+ for Sam Flanders, we played our role as the underbidders! Go for the real prize (Humphrey) or let Jase Taylor do what he’s paid to do!

Are they trying to win the premiership or going all out for 7th? Because the latter isn’t all that admirable. They have 1 genuinely elite player. Some good veterans in Wilkie and Sinclair. And 4 guys who could really be something - Tauru, Max King, Phillipou and to a lesser extent Darcy Wilson. Bringing in more good players will help make life easier for the others so maybe they all take a leap. But to completely empty your salary cap all in one go without getting a true A grader or anyone that seems value for money seems a bit desperate and could really hurt if they don’t take a leap.

Purely in terms of kicking I think this guy might be equal if not better.

Nope, don’t think the Saints have a contract on the table for Heath. Alex Dodson will be their back up. And Max is finally old enough that a half decent back up is willing to join us. Especially when the alternative is to sit behind a guy on 1.7M

Worth trying right up until the trade deadline but if there’s no movement from the suns and a fair package of picks on the table I’d settle for the picks.

We’re pushing Oliver out for what is surely a mix of culture, game plan, contract concerns. There’s no expectation of replacing him with anything. Tracc seemed to bail somewhat unexpectedly. You can’t keep a guy who wants to leave 2 years in a row if you get a fair offer. If we can’t replace with quality that will suck but what’s the alternative?

Viney, Pickett, Langford, Windsor, Lindsay, Culley. Backs: Rivers, Bowey, Salem Forwards: Chandler, Langdon, Sparrow, Henderson, Depth: Tholstrup, Sharp, Laurie, ?Woey Development: Mentha One ready to go half back (so Rivers can play midfielder and Bowser/Salem can have some flexibility) and one ready to go midfielder would be wise I think. But ideally it’s younger guys with upside. I don’t think we’re Jack Steele desperate just yet.

Didn’t we reject Chappy going to Richmond? Why would we suddenly allow him to go to the Pies?