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His best footy was in 2019/2020 as a tagger. Strong country lad with a good tank and was suited to that role. His skills/smarts have always been found wanting at half back or on a wing.
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Ben’s knee might be 65. North thought he was cooked. Anything he does from now is a bonus. We aren’t going to suddenly start lacing our kicks. Quick movement and long kicks is about the best most sides can do, and hopefully get 1 on 1’s. It work last year, Brown’s a better high mark than he gets credit for. No doubt having Tom McDonald helped take the load off at chf too. Even late this year though Brown would be dangerous for a half and contributing then tailing his opponent in the second half. But if Grundy/Gawn replaces Jackson then we need mobility from the key forwards. The ruck becomes the bomb target and the other forwards need to be mobile.
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We gave Hunt 2 years post 2020 when it felt a bit off. Smith might be next level to that but I’m not sure it’s by much. We kept Baker and Mitch Brown last year. And Grundy seems very Ben Brown ish, let’s see what the end cost is, if it’s along the lines of Brown it makes it easier to understand. Maybe we’re repeating the mistakes of the past, or maybe it’s the best we can do in keeping experience and stability and trying to patch tall forwards. The one thing we should be doing is using the bulk of the Jacko compensation the draft. If we end the trade period with a strong draft hand, Grundy, maybe a depth ruck or other key forward and at least one running player then that’s in line with previous moves.
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I’m absolutely on record that I don’t want Grundy, but I think there might be push back on the big money aspect of it. Gawn’s one of 2 Melbourne players who really does make money away from footy with marketing, plus his business interests. If he’s as unselfish as we’re lead to believe he might only be on 600k . Maybe we put the screws to the Pies and get Grundy down to 550-600k too. Given any starting calibre player makes 400k+ and even an in demand back up like Meek could fetch 300k it might not be all that much salary wise. It could be that we’re fine with our ruck budget being expensive and that it doesn’t hinder our ability to land a key forward for 2024.
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Of course you can get moderate improvements but you can’t turn Luke Dunstan in to Clayton Oliver, nor can you turn Weideman in to Harry McKay or any other functional key forward. Callow’s a smart footballer but pretty much all his highlights are running in straight lines and barely jumping off the ground. Even his nice pack marks at sanfl or junior level aren’t cutting it at afl level. Talls need to move like midfielders at ground level and compete with athletic freaks (some of them 2m+ tall) in the air.
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If Gawn’s going forward then we need 2 mobile marking targets + Fritsch. The 2 we have on the list are McDonald and JVR. A kid and a spluttering Datsun. Makes sense to add someone in the middle of that age range to provide cover. Corbett’s best strength is as an old school lead up CHF. That’s not as popular as it used to be but if we want to use JVR or T Mc to add that to our ball movement then Corbett’s good depth at it.
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Teams mostly shifted away from trying to combat Lever with a 3rd tall and instead put pressure on him to man up smalls. He was often on Walters, Ginnivan and McCarthy late in the season. When we held teams up he had the better of that match up, when opposition broke through he couldn’t keep up. And like most of our backline he offered so little in attack. Honestly the attacking work rate from our back 7 was deplorable this year. I just hope they’ve got long enough over summer to fix his issues and get him fully fit. I’d rather they set a time line that ends a few rounds in to the season but has Jake at peak fitness than get him in for round 1. We’ve seen the impact of chronic plantar fasciitis/ankle/foot drama with Jack Viney and we can’t repeat that.
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Max never deliberately played behind the ball though. He pushed back from the ruck after we slowed teams ball movement. Do reliable tall targets forward of the ball allow the ruck to sit back more - yes. But we can get that with 3 tall forwards if we have them (or recruit them). Grundy rucking 50%+ immediately takes away from Gawn floating back from the ruck, and whilst he’s not bad at it Grundy isn’t nearly as good as a backline marker. Plus having an immobile ruck up forward takes away from the forward pressure required to slow ball movement and allow the big ruck to sit back to begin with.
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I agree. It doesn’t make sense that they wanted Melk gone last year but will now keep him this year. Even if his salary is drastically reduced. He can only play 1 role - undersized tall distractor. I think he was actually ok in that role is most games but it’s still not going to be a first or even second choice role next year. I guess he takes Mitch Brown’s list spot in the ‘why is he on the list’ role. Which might be about having a forward line coach at Casey. Still, I’d rather fill that via Casey not with an afl list spot.
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At his best - a very good player due to his mobility and follow up at ground level. And he ability to play 85% in the ruck. If he’s lost any significant amount of that mobility he won’t be as valuable. That was made clear in 2020/2021. If he’s asked to play forward his value drops yet again
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You can’t just make a guy run faster and jump higher. If we could do that we’d start with half our own players
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Is he a smart tap ruck - no, the pies consistently struggled to get value from his taps Can he play forward - no Does he take a lot of contested marks around the ground - not really Is he so skilled that his habit of racking up a huge amount of the ball really is useful - no. Honestly I worry we’ve been seduced by the desire to replace Jackson and the fantasy of Gawn up forward rather admitting we need a back up ruck and a forward who can pinch hit in the ruck. Plus a genuine key forward solution. Instead of making 3 moves to fix 3 problems we’re going all in on Grundy.
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Not at afl level athlete
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How many players sign contracts late in the season more than a year out? Compared to how many players sign contracts over summer when their managers have had a chance to fully assess options. I’m not saying he isn’t a chance to leave but this is a fair beat up that’s really piggy backing on the Jacko situation. I don’t think we should be worrying until at least April next year. If talks are delayed or not progressing by then it’s worth talking about.
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Bears and Texans were tipped to be the worst 2 teams in the NFL and I really think both teams are going to be too well coached and organised for that to be the case. They won't be good, they lack talent and have limited offenses, but Lovie Smith got elevated in Houston just do a solid job with a roster that's slowly trending the right way. And whilst the national media have crapped all over the Bears for not giving Fields enough blocking and weapons the word out of the Bears from anyone who's seen them train or play so far has been that they're really professional and organised. Fields looks a long way off consistently running a seamless offense, especially one this devoid of talent. But what he can do is make huge plays. The Bears will try to stay in games for as long as possible before Fields makes a couple of huge throws and wins them. That won't beat the elite teams but it's not a terrible recipe against the lesser sides.
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Is it too late for me to change for the Eagles in the NFC East, Dak's injury just about dooms the Cowboys. Liking the Vikings in the NFC north too but let's see what Rodgers can do with these young receivers with more time. Oh and Bucs to win the NFC looks likely but I'm still a bit worried about Brady.
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The Melbourne - Norwood connection
DeeSpencer replied to Whispering_Jack's topic in Melbourne Demons
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The selectors clearly gambled on an underdone Salo and he didn’t deliver. They gambled that Salem’s cool head early in games was more important than his ability to run out of a full game. Lever, Salem and Petracca after breaking his leg did not fire in the finals. Neither did Gawn, and whilst they aren’t stars but we obviously got very little from tall forwards. If we got 2021 Lever, Salem, Tracc, Gawn, Ben Brown then we we’re in the grand final and no one is complaining about Spargo, ANB or any other role player.
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Salem is a star player a mile below his best, the answer is getting him back to his best. Same with Lever. Same with Petracca. All impacted by injuries. Collingwood have 3 new young players in their side: Nick Daicos, McCreery, Ginnivan. We could do with a young gun like Daicos in the draft, but I’m happy with Spargo and Pickett over the pies small forwards. Collingwood have got their stars healthy - namely Moore, Howe, De Goey and Jamie Elliot. Otherwise they have a heap of role players like Mihocek, Murphy, Noble, Cox, Hoskin Elliot, Lipinski, Bianco all firing because the stars and team are firing. They aren’t suddenly good or bad players.
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Idiotic. If we’re replacing 5 premiership players with unproven kids and spare parts picks up then we will absolutely be going backwards. If we got the finals performances from Lever, Salem, Petracca and a couple of half decent key forwards we’d be in the grand final with all those role players.
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Trading Draft Picks for Salary Dumps!
DeeSpencer replied to Lucifers Hero's topic in Melbourne Demons
The other terrible thing this would do is encourage bad teams to sell the chance of improvement by bringing in mature players for more picks. That further encourages the scorched earth rebuilds that the Dees tried for a decade, Carlton, St Kilda, Gold Coast’s entire existence, North Melbourne and so on. And at the other end the best teams get better. The AFL should be doing everything they can to encourage an even spread of players from 24-30 at every club. That way you get a more even competition and more ladder variation each year. As it currently stands there’s usually 4-6 teams each year who physically just can not compete week in week out due to list profile. This kind of move is just a disaster for the ‘any given Sunday’ nature of the league that we should and could have. -
Trading Draft Picks for Salary Dumps!
DeeSpencer replied to Lucifers Hero's topic in Melbourne Demons
The clubs who can attract talent already have a huge advantage. Look at Geelong, look at Richmond buying a new midfield, even the pies got the cap well out of shape not helped by covid, and have already bought in Lipinski and Krueger last year and are now targeting McStay, Tom Mitchell and Bobby Hill. If you effectively expand the salary cap limits by teams buying picks the big clubs will just keep shopping. -
I hope he tells the club as soon as possible but I hope the club keep it under wraps as long as possible. I hate the way trade talk takes away from the finals. It’s so unnecessary and unbecoming
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Sturt’s got talent but he’s had a heap of injuries and clearly can’t pressure well enough to get games ahead of Freo’s 4 smalls or Bailey Banfield. Poor man’s Fritsch. His 1 year deal tells me the Dees did the due diligence and weren’t prepared to offer 2 years. If we wanted him we’d have offered 2 years and had him as the steak knives to Jacko. Now…Liam Henry on the outer. That has me interested
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Trading Draft Picks for Salary Dumps!
DeeSpencer replied to Lucifers Hero's topic in Melbourne Demons
During last year's Trade Period, some clubs enquired with the League about whether they could directly pay contracts of players who remain at other clubs in exchange for a draft pick. Of all the dumb ideas the afl have considered this would absolutely take the cake. So much of the system - academy, father sons, Gold Coast and GWS existence - creates deals that benefit the 2 clubs doing the deal and screws the other 16. This would be about the final straw for any integrity.