Little Goffy

Unethical sponsors is the go-to for champion clubs. Collingwood has Emirates, KFC, LaTrobe Financial, and Nike. An all-flavours ice cream box of worker exploitation, dishonest finance, actual slavery, and fatbergs. I googled to check something about Emirates airlines; the CEO/quasi-owner is of course a son of the previous god-king of Dubai. "Ahmed's career in the aviation industry began in 1985 when he was appointed president of the Dubai Department of Civil Aviation (DCA). Emirates, the national carrier, was launched at the same time, with Ahmed appointed chairman." Love it. Pure Collingwood. He even married his cousin.

Can you rent a Jaguar from Hertz?

Any chance we trade in a future pick to grab a tall? The Gawn, Verral, Fullarton set-up is... not deep. Mitch Edwards still available as a ruck who can clunk a mark, and Archer Reid as a 203cm forward who can help ruck. And what, exactly, is our count of available list spots? My impression is that assuming Hore and Brown basically means we have just one spot left, and that if Brown is bid on in the main draft then that last spot has to be a rookie listing?

Leans more to Danish, it seems. So.. flat track bully? Bingo, there's an Australia semi-famous Tholstrup originally from Denmark. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Tholstrup

Gotta feel sorry for the Eagles wasting pick 1 on that Reid guy when they could have had basically the same thing only cooler.

Tholstrup at the 2028 best and fairest night, touched to be finally acknowledged as the best midfielder-slash-forward, and not the other way around.

Looking for upsides; Not taking Curtin, and Adelaide trading up to make sure they got Curtin, suggests both clubs think Petty will be staying with Melbourne longer term. Windsor allegedly has speed, agility, defensive work ethic and 'the best delivery in the draft' in both skill and vision. If the product matches the packaging, it really will change the way we can operate. He also racks up more running bounces than our whole team does combined!

Haven't seen us take a bolter like that since Clayton Oliver. Touching wood, shedding a tear for not getting Curtin who has been my stable draft-crush all along.

This panel is tediously over-enthused. Real breakfast television infomercial stuff.

OR we do another pick trade as needed late in the draft, I presume.

Yikes. I'm feeling a bit flat about it but geezus some people crave misery.

I'm seeing if I can single-handedly make it a rumour just to troll Essendon. Though McGrath would certainly be a suitable addition for us.

I'd love him and think we got a bonus if we could get him at 11 but feel like we'd be missing out on something better if we took him at 6. I think the 'potentially special' players are deep enough to get to that first pick, while Windsor is more in the 'very good' group from all I can gather. Besides, not only have we already brought in Billings but we're getting Andrew McGrath as a free agent at the end of next season.

Being Normal with a dose of optimism; 6 - Curtin 11 - Wilson or Windsor Being abnormal based on North wanting talls and being sure they'll get a suitable one at 6 and maybe also at 11, and taking Duursma with pick 2 because they need firepower more than more midfielders and we'll only do the deal if McKercher is available at 3... 3 - McKercher 18 - Will Green

6, 11 and future first (18 obviously) still seems enormous for pick 1, but Taylor has made some pretty unequivocal statements there about how much impact he thinks Harley Reid can have. Unfortunately, if things do pan out that way, Petracca and Oliver can probably say goodbye to their Brownlow hopes! Hmm, or, I guess, there's always the Voss-Black-Akermanis scenario.

Moy-a. It's not often you get a shot at having a potential top-10 talent of the draft come through late in the second round. I think he also suits our needs as a point of difference capable of making our attacking movement a little bit unpredictable. If available at our late pick (nominally 42, probably 38ish) then I think he's worth the risk. Caveat - only if we're sure we can still get Kynan Brown because I'm a family club kind guy. Coincidentally, Brown is the perfect contrast in that we would be taking him quite sure of the attitude, commitment and workrate, but also knowing the limitations. For context, here he is in the APRIL power rankings. At 2. https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/36059902/afl-draft-april-power-rankings-2023-jasper-chellappah-harley-reid-ashton-moir-zane-duursma-high

I suspect many googled it after it was used in Rick & Morty. Like how suddenly everyone had a deep appreciation of Mazzy Star.

This thread is getting ready to take over from NoT$NoB$ thread when it tips 30,000 and is put out to pasture.

If Nick Watson falls to us he'll be the next Brent Harvey. If Dan Curtain comes to us he'll be the next Paul Roos. If McKercher slides all the way to us he'll be a speedier James Hird. If it is Sanders, let's not overdo it and just welcome the new Lenny Hayes. Conor O'Sullivan will of course be the new Dustin Fletcher if we take him or the new Simon Prestagiacomo if we don't. Caddy won't be quite what we expected and end up just being the new Warren Tredrea. So, with all that in mind, I think pick 6 should be a winner.

Pickett is a top-3 small forward in the AFL at present, in the mix with Green, Cameron, Breust and Rankine. Rankine was taken at pick 3 and traded to the Crows for pick 5 despite him being a Gold Coast traditional wantaway and nominating only one club. There's maybe a 10% margin between Pickett and Rankine, and I say that with my Rankine Ranking being very high. Pickett definitely ahead of Weightman, while Young and Ash are very good but not yet outstanding in roles which are more suited to younger players to begin with. Being a 'true' small forward with serious pressure responsibilities, especially in a very disorganised forward line lacking tall structure, is a very hard gig. He'd be rated around 6 to 8 in any one of those re-run drafts and his stocks may yet rise.

Truly [censored] the bed today. Would take a freak occurance in the final quarter to make this respectable, let alone steal an undeserved win. Ugh.

We'd be laughing if we could get Moir at '42' and he matured to be as good as his previous year suggested.

And presumably this time get a church lawyer. $6m/case... Ridsdale alone would be more than a quarter of a billion dollars. And at this stage there's no evidence that the Dog's hierarchy knew.

They are under 22? McNamara and Bannan feel like they've been around forever, and Gillard I guess just seems older because she's so tall and fit.

Essendon, J Hird, Zero votes. It was an absolute disgrace by the umpires, but on the other hand Essendon are still sooking it up about umpiring every single game 20 years later. These things affect the psyche of a whole fan base. Anyway, fun times laughing at Essendon aside; The key issue is that the AFL is not governed properly. There is no clarity of process or transparency of decision-making, which is only made worse by pretensions of transparency and good governance. It is entirely clear to everyone that dozens of small and large decisions which have material effects on clubs' fortunes are made by executive order and heavily influenced by shady dealings and personal connections. It is a bit like the ubiquitous conspiracy-theory culture in Malaysia. It worse than, say, Egypt because in Egypt every level of authority just walks around being openly corrupt and impulsively oppressive, so everyone just knows to keep their head down or get beaten. In Malaysia there are all these layers of pretense about being a modern democracy with a functioning parliament, so everyone gets told 'here are the rules', which they then try to follow but get shivved in a bureaucratic back alley and suddenly discover that their farm has been owned by a palm oil company for the last 20 years and they have to hand it over and owe back-rent. Hence, every superstition, conspiracy theory and paranoia you can plant will grow beautifully. To put it in formal language; The Australian Football League is a superficially quasi-Democratic institution which in substance operates on a hierarchical patronage system kept in check by the non-dynamic loyalty framework of it's ritual clans. (The AFL pretends to be well governed, but is actually an old boys network, and the only thing keeping it together is that fans rarely switch clubs, so it is not feasible to bleed smaller clubs to death)