Little Goffy

6, 11 and future first (18 obviously) still seems enormous for pick 1, but Taylor has made some pretty unequivocal statements there about how much impact he thinks Harley Reid can have. Unfortunately, if things do pan out that way, Petracca and Oliver can probably say goodbye to their Brownlow hopes! Hmm, or, I guess, there's always the Voss-Black-Akermanis scenario.

Moy-a. It's not often you get a shot at having a potential top-10 talent of the draft come through late in the second round. I think he also suits our needs as a point of difference capable of making our attacking movement a little bit unpredictable. If available at our late pick (nominally 42, probably 38ish) then I think he's worth the risk. Caveat - only if we're sure we can still get Kynan Brown because I'm a family club kind guy. Coincidentally, Brown is the perfect contrast in that we would be taking him quite sure of the attitude, commitment and workrate, but also knowing the limitations. For context, here he is in the APRIL power rankings. At 2. https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/36059902/afl-draft-april-power-rankings-2023-jasper-chellappah-harley-reid-ashton-moir-zane-duursma-high

I suspect many googled it after it was used in Rick & Morty. Like how suddenly everyone had a deep appreciation of Mazzy Star.

This thread is getting ready to take over from NoT$NoB$ thread when it tips 30,000 and is put out to pasture.

If Nick Watson falls to us he'll be the next Brent Harvey. If Dan Curtain comes to us he'll be the next Paul Roos. If McKercher slides all the way to us he'll be a speedier James Hird. If it is Sanders, let's not overdo it and just welcome the new Lenny Hayes. Conor O'Sullivan will of course be the new Dustin Fletcher if we take him or the new Simon Prestagiacomo if we don't. Caddy won't be quite what we expected and end up just being the new Warren Tredrea. So, with all that in mind, I think pick 6 should be a winner.

Pickett is a top-3 small forward in the AFL at present, in the mix with Green, Cameron, Breust and Rankine. Rankine was taken at pick 3 and traded to the Crows for pick 5 despite him being a Gold Coast traditional wantaway and nominating only one club. There's maybe a 10% margin between Pickett and Rankine, and I say that with my Rankine Ranking being very high. Pickett definitely ahead of Weightman, while Young and Ash are very good but not yet outstanding in roles which are more suited to younger players to begin with. Being a 'true' small forward with serious pressure responsibilities, especially in a very disorganised forward line lacking tall structure, is a very hard gig. He'd be rated around 6 to 8 in any one of those re-run drafts and his stocks may yet rise.

Truly [censored] the bed today. Would take a freak occurance in the final quarter to make this respectable, let alone steal an undeserved win. Ugh.

We'd be laughing if we could get Moir at '42' and he matured to be as good as his previous year suggested.

And presumably this time get a church lawyer. $6m/case... Ridsdale alone would be more than a quarter of a billion dollars. And at this stage there's no evidence that the Dog's hierarchy knew.

They are under 22? McNamara and Bannan feel like they've been around forever, and Gillard I guess just seems older because she's so tall and fit.

Essendon, J Hird, Zero votes. It was an absolute disgrace by the umpires, but on the other hand Essendon are still sooking it up about umpiring every single game 20 years later. These things affect the psyche of a whole fan base. Anyway, fun times laughing at Essendon aside; The key issue is that the AFL is not governed properly. There is no clarity of process or transparency of decision-making, which is only made worse by pretensions of transparency and good governance. It is entirely clear to everyone that dozens of small and large decisions which have material effects on clubs' fortunes are made by executive order and heavily influenced by shady dealings and personal connections. It is a bit like the ubiquitous conspiracy-theory culture in Malaysia. It worse than, say, Egypt because in Egypt every level of authority just walks around being openly corrupt and impulsively oppressive, so everyone just knows to keep their head down or get beaten. In Malaysia there are all these layers of pretense about being a modern democracy with a functioning parliament, so everyone gets told 'here are the rules', which they then try to follow but get shivved in a bureaucratic back alley and suddenly discover that their farm has been owned by a palm oil company for the last 20 years and they have to hand it over and owe back-rent. Hence, every superstition, conspiracy theory and paranoia you can plant will grow beautifully. To put it in formal language; The Australian Football League is a superficially quasi-Democratic institution which in substance operates on a hierarchical patronage system kept in check by the non-dynamic loyalty framework of it's ritual clans. (The AFL pretends to be well governed, but is actually an old boys network, and the only thing keeping it together is that fans rarely switch clubs, so it is not feasible to bleed smaller clubs to death)

So, something that confuses me if what happens if a F/S nominee is selected by another club right at the end of the main draft? Say, pick 88 of an 88 pick draft? There must be a policy in place for this because otherwise it would be inevitable that a situation like that would happen. I guess I'm wondering, if we have K Brown nominated, and only one spot left after 6 and 11, are we kind of obliged to take him with our one remaining pick in the 40s? Only other solution I can think of is that the nominated club must use their next live pick in 'any' draft, which would obviously refer to the rookie draft. With that in mind... possible pick trade shenanigans still to come with our 40-something pick? Bump it right back to 70 in exchange for a future 3rd or something?

I bet you were on the way home during the comeback against Fremantle, too. Wait... no, It's WCW I'm talking to. You were probably so close to the action Woneaemirri's sweat splashed on you when he did his celebration jump.

I really like him, particularly if we miss out on Curtin. A succession plan in defence is a priority. However, I feel like he would be a steal if he slipped to 11 but overpriced at 6. Could be one to watch for with pick trading shenanigans.

Two friends?

It's okay, I'm not running. For authentic, vintage rubbish you need TubiTV, but I'm pretty sure it'll install a virus that makes your washing smell funny and pokes holes in your flyscreen. I ended up there after seeing 'Bad Movie Bible' on youtube, which appears to be hosted by the unacknowledged offspring of Margaret & Dave from the movie show. Ironically, 'Mystery Science Theatre 3000' is on Netflix.

Oh, now that is an excellent death ride. And actual 'off a cliff' death ride. If our future first is 18, and their future second is from the bottom 4, the laughs would never end. As for pick 6; if it is Curtin we're talking about, I'd hold him and think we got lucky with the draft flow. Would be a key figure in our 2028 premiership.

Between the idiotic carrying on and the injuring opponents with front-on high collisions and being ugly as f', she reminds me distinctly of a certain criminal from Collingwood.

I want to know who that little girl constantly giggling next to the crowd microphone is. Having the best night ever.

Fair bit of 'rolling shoulders as you chase' body language suggesting they aren't quite switched on so far. We'd want to get a grip on it because Brisbane are launching knives at speed into our defence. Couple of important intercept marks there. They weren't technically difficult but a fumble for either could have sent the game into early crisis mode.

Since I had old Essendon stats open already, I took a quick look at their 2000 injury run for comparison. 5 players played every game, 7 players only missed one game, 7 more played at least 20 games. Our marking forwards (Brown, McDonald, Petty, Fritsch) missed more games through injury this season than Essendon's entire starting 18 in their premiership season!

4 premierships. Though your point clearly stands well enough on that. Plus there is some bonus credit for beating Hawthorn in consecutive Grand finals. I reckon even Sam Mitchell has that on his bucket list. So, here's a fun 'would you rather'; Would you rather the 84/85 double premiership or the 1993 'baby bombers' evolving to the 2000 'greatest'? I wonder who our conceptual Hird-Mercuri-Misiti-Fletcher-Wallis core that would play in both be? And on that note - I would never have thought that there were only five players from the supposedly very youg 1993 side who were still around for the 2000 win. I'm running with the thought; 2021 premiership players on our list now who would realistically be young enough to also contest a 2028 premiership; True youngsters are Petty, Spargo, Sparrow, Pickett, Rivers and Bowey. Then of the mature players Petracca, Oliver, Brayshaw and Lever are all contracted to at least the end of 2028, so count them in. Fritsch with his brain-and-skill based play should last that long, too. 11 players realistically in the window for both a 2021 and 2028 premiership! Noice. 🦄

One day it'll hit a point where a legal case will be made by a club or even a player arguing some form of 'restraint of trade' case, and it probably won't succeed but would be worth it for the documents required to be presented to court. AFL Inc. is some kind of shady 'non-taxed but also not-a-not-for-profit for governance and oversight requirements' incorporated body so exactly what its legal scope for favouritism and the spoils system is unclear. Suffice to say, if the AFL had been incorporated under the rules for not for profit organisations, there'd be a whole bunch of people facing civil and even criminal courts.

2023 was the first time in 5 years for Gawn and 6 years for Oliver that either of them didn't crack ten Brownlow votes, and in both cases injury was the core of it. Meanwhile, Petracca has been going at a vote a game ever since the proverbial penny dropped in season 2020. Strange to think about Jack Viney's Brownlow counts. His early career numbers stifled by the sheer weight of losses and being second behind designated 'played well in a poor side' champion Nathan Jones. Then as we began to improve he was heavily slowed by persistent injury problems, before finally he was left as the third arm behind two of the greatest midfielders of the modern era. If he'd played for St Kilda over the same period he'd have twice the Brownlow votes (see Jack Steele) but on the other hand he'd have no premierships and be playing for St Kilda. Poor Mr Steele.

I wouldn't normally do this, but... OK Boomer.