Adam The God

If the club has that attitude we'll never get another star again.

Howe is NOT a great kick. I'd prefer to watch Rivers and Garland take a set shot that Howe.

Cameron's a beautiful kick, but so is Watts. But whopper is lightening fast and taller than Cameron. Even though he had an ordinary game, Patton has the build and kicking style to be a gun. I'd take him ahead of Cameron, on size alone.

A left-footed forward who takes ages with his set shots. Anyone think Sheedy had a hand in giving him the number 18?

A beautiful kick this kid. I think I prefer Patton's kicking style though.

Gysberts will be our best midfielder. Ridiculous.

Well, that's disappointing. Beams is the only one there then. Beams or Boak? Not totally sold on Beams, but his game yesterday was amazing. Being tagged early on, 34 touches and three goals.

I'd like to think this was the case, but if so, you could also say the same thing for Scully. A little biased I think. Love Clark though. Don't care if he came for money. He plays for the jumper and that's all that matters.

Absolutely no foundation to think he will be at GWS next year. Just because Scully is there is not a reason.

I'd be going Sidebottom before Boak. Such a gun. Only watched 10 minutes of the Pies/Eagles game, but every time he gets it, his distribution and decision making is spot on.

That's the point. This is a hypothetical trade scenario. We need small crumbers, because we don't have them. Meanwhile, Jurrah can't play which role? I'm saying he could be that little bit of X-factor in the forwardline.

Good point, Maurie. Agree with you.

Yeah, terrific CV. A premiership would have helped his cause. Loved him as a player though, except his kicking.

Todd was a really good player, but he wasn't "a gun". He was on the cusp of B grade and A grade. Hard at it, yes. Leader? Absolutely. But his kicking would often let him down, which prevented him from being a star. I'd go as far as saying we haven't had a gun mid in my life-time (I'm 25 and wasn't old enough to see Robbie Flower play). If Jack's kicking is any better than his dad's, he might go the distance.

Cloke, every day of the week. If Boak was Judd, then I'd be going that option. But a forwardline of Cloke and Clark would be seriously dangerous. Add in a fit LJ (if he ever plays again), Howe and two quick crumbers and you'd have a top forwardline. So short answer - get Cloke, draft young talented mids.

Yep, no more one-pace mids. Quick mids with good skills. That's the essential.

Always do give them hell.

Couldn't give a toss about GWS. So very insignificant. All I care about is our players and supporters ripping into Scully. Nothing less than a win is acceptable.

Well, that's the key really isn't it, DG? I reckon we might have done alright with the same draft concessions afforded to GWS and GC. They could afford to get a couple wrong due to the weight of draft picks they were handed. Meanwhile, haven't seen Cameron play yet. I suspect I will this weekend.

You don't have to have iota of intelligence to stir the pot. It's the only thing he's good for though.

The thing is Hawthorn set themselves up with one good draft. Franklin, Roughead and Lewis in the one draft. Draft well this time around and we could be set up for the next decade.

[censored] joke. Can't afford to have the Buddy's or Swan's out of the game, but if you wear a Melbourne jumper you're deemed expendable. Blatant hit. Leigh Matthews-y.

I agree, but at the moment it's plainly embarrassing.

As your username would attest, RR.

Couple of top quality spoils yesterday too.