Adam The God

Each to their own, mate.

Doesn't make him particularly good then, does it?

His hospital handballs that consistently put team mates under pressure and his inability to win crucial one-on-ones put a large cross next to him. Think that'll be his last game.

Was he number 32? What a little pipsqueak. Little man syndrome in fine force today.

I'd probably rather he comment on the disgraceful decision-making and skill execution, than blame that all on the umpires. We were second to the ball, tackled clumsily and fail to execute basic AFL-level skills.

We lack senior players. I think that's more of the problem. We haven't had a group that have stayed through and been competitive AFL footballers. They're all retired. The Moloney's and Sylvia's of the world. That's what I believe is really hurting us, but time for Col to move.

A day's a long time in football. Couldn't be more embarrassed of my club and we managed only 23,000 today (admittedly outside in the rain, rather than Etihad).

Poor old PJ. He's done his job. About time a few others started doing the lifting. Very generous, I think, mate. He was truly horrible today, IMO.

Well, it says everything about work rate. We don't have the skills to implement Hawthorn's game plan.

If that's what was said, that's bloody pathetic. I know he's trying to shelter the players from media scrutiny, but perhaps they bloody need some scrutiny? You can't tell me that the MFC players today tried more or as much as St Kilda. Treat us with a bit of respect. They wanted it more, were ferocious and played smarter. We played dumb, disjointed, individualistic football.

Agreed. We never bloody do though.

Worryingly, we've been getting worse every week since Geelong. We need to snap this emphatically next week.

Bad call, mate. Watts was best on ground in the first half. As for Tyson, he had an ordinary final term, but was good before that. Vanders was absolurely hopeless today, as was Garland. Viney doesn't do enough damage with his disposals and Grimes is atill a horrible turn over merchant and shouldn't be there next year. Dawes is done as far as I'm concerned. Harmes wasn't bad though, Brayshaw and Cross tried hard, but everyone else...

Why do we persist in playing the same style irrespective of the weather though? There's no plan B. Instead of taking the first option in the wet, we over possess and we're clearly being told to take the game on, but we're sooooo slow in the midfield, so we continue to get run down or stifled. Viney is the only one who is slightly quick. And we also have a ruckman who doesn't use his superior height and continues to tap to the opposition. Some of these blokes just don't turn up and that's equally at the feet of the coaches too. Richardson, with his inferior list, gets the most out of his team. They tackle hard and work for each other. Our blokes pick and choose when to turn up. We've got a young list that still has a dearth of senior leadership, but our inconsistency is like clockwork. Next week we'll probably come out and beat Collingwood.

I'm a Roosy fan, but I don't understand why we never man up the opposition's spare man. We manned him up for all of 10 minutes today. Is it so we learn to use the footy better? It's inexplicable otherwise. Roos has still been a blessing and this is a typical post-loss thread.

This is an utter disgrace. We manufacture ways of turning it over. Easily some of the dumbest footballers in the league. Why the [censored] do the coaching team persist playing over possessive, dry footy in the wet? We do not bring AFL intensity enough. Haven't brought it at all today. Being smashed in the tackle count.

The first quarter was disgraceful, but at least we kept them goalless that second quarter. Our ball use and decision-making has been deplorable though. At this rate, St Kilda will win by a couple of goals.

No one can get close to them anywhere.

It shows you how brilliant our supporter base is and exposes the fair weather supporter bases of these 'bigger' clubs. Carlton couldn't notch 25,000 fans last night and Essendon struggle to get 23,000 tonight. Carlton won a flag in 1995 and played finals a couple of years ago. Essendon won the flag in 2000 and played in finals recently. Melbourne won the flag in 1964 and last played in a final 9 years ago, having been through the ugliest decade of football in certainly AFL history and rivalling anything witnessed during the VFL era as well. Yet, we still get 25,000 against interstate sides in poor time slots, with poor weather. Makes me proud to be a Demon. Our supporter base has copped a lot of unfair criticism over the journey, but we are one of the most vocal and steadfast supporter bases in the league, despite being a relatively small one - at least in terms of attendances and membership. In conclusion, it is great to see Carlton and Essendon in the wilderness. I hope it continues for the next 20 years.

Bennell's better than Motlop, with greater potential too.

Agreed.

Maclure reckons they are the third worst side in the comp. I'd love to know who he thinks is worse. Talent-wise, Carlton are easily the worst list in the comp. The way they're playing, only Brisbane would be worse than them.

Not sure about that, mate. A-League crowds are down and they're frankly pretty ordinary. It's just not gonna happen. At least not in the next decade.

Except the AFL aren't really in competition with soccer. I know they think they are, but the A League is rubbish and is played during the cricket season anyway. If anything, cricket is in competition with soccer.

Gee, I'd love Cripps though. He is going to be a superstar.