Adam The God

????????? With a stronger defensive group built over the past 3 years, we've now got an ability to be more offensive and play Salem and even Kolodjashnij back there. I'm sure it's a bit of a dream for Goody. We've assembled a formidable group back there now. Obviously, Frost vs Oscar for the extra KPB spot where required too - clearly the weak link, but David Astbury played in a premiership. Injuries permitting, we've strengthened our defence better than any other team in the comp over a 3 year period.

A very talented player no doubt, but his lack of chase and tackling pressure was completely at odds with the brand Goodwin has been developing since he took the reigns.

Gee, I'm glad we've got some thoughtful posters in here, amongst all the hysterics.

I'm happy with the deal and Hogan is now the enemy.

Get in his ear, mate.

It's over, mate. He's gone. He'll be a Docker tonight. (speculation...)

I'd like them both. I'm still intrigued about the request to trade our 2019 first rounder. Will we try and package this in a deal with Freo or Gold Coast or another club?

I hope we go after Cerra next year and I hope we're in his ear this year. Just as they've been in Hogan's since he was 17.

Ideally, we'd be paying under market value for May's contract given we're helping him out of the GCS disaster and giving him a shot at a premiership(s). That is what being a destination club is. I'd hope that Hogan is the only player we've got on significantly larger money and it sounds like Lever was up there too, but my main concern is holding onto our core midfield group in Oliver, Brayshaw, Gawn, Viney, Harmes and Petracca. I'd hope therefore that a number of our players would take slightly under market value to stay together.

Spot on. Ridiculous commentary around this. People need to grow up a little bit. He fills a need, just like Lever, just like May, just like KK. Sounds like he's just about over the line at Hawthorn, but I'm glad our FD clearly realise we need to move on and get to winning flags, instead of being too proud to address such a blatantly obvious need.

I'm a novice when it comes to the points system, but would picks 23 and 30 equate to a top 20 pick? And if we traded 5 for May and KK, would packaging 23, 30 and 36 get us a pick between 10-15?

And it sounded just as ridiculous then, as it does now. Amateur hour, indeed. No one was falling for that, save one or two Demonlanders and a few mugs in the press.

Not all of us felt Bell was bluffing. Fire up the Brucey avatar, Drags. It's coming home.

What's your soon-to-be avatar, mate?

Interesting... he'd be asking for an arm and a leg wouldn't he, salary wise? Nice left-field one though.

You're not reading my posts mate. I certainly didn't say it and I don't believe I read that Drags had said it either. I think what we're both saying is that Freo are such a basket case (Exhibit A the alleged Kelly trade attempt and Exhibit B the backflip on the alleged agreement between Jesse's management, the MFC and FFC of pick 6's involvement in the Jesse trade) that they might be naive enough to think those sort of shenanigans would affect their pro opponents in trade negotiations.

Oi vey. I'm not saying it will affect our team. I'm saying Fremantle are amateurish and dumb enough to think it could.

We're dealing with a bunch of amateurs here. Who knows?

I repeat. I do not believe it has anything to do with MFC fans. We have absolutely no control over this decision. If the club are going to do it, they're well enough run not to bow to fan pressure. As for Fremantle, given their behaviour across week 1 of the trade period, I'd absolutely believe they would 'do that to a vulnerable guy'.

I don't agree with the supporters bit but it is certainly a possible stage by Freo.

I trust the FD, but concur with the sentiment here. I keep hearing from people that we're a destination club. May and KK are clearly up for it. Have we got a few others up our sleeve and if so, how do we plan to acquire them?

Yep. Agreed. We might agree on some things @EnterTheDragon, but not on this one. Jesse won't be a Melbourne player come Wednesday evening (no sources, just opinion).

I reckon Frost stays as depth KPB. But I still view this as a horses for courses decision. The size of the opposition's forwardline and its agility would effect who we go with out of Omac and Frost. Agile forwardlines are not Omac's go, but smart agile forwards often catch Frost out, so there's certainly a nuance to selection.

Well see for mine, May brings the two strongest attributes of Frost (his closing speed) and Oscar (his solid kicking) and combines them into the one player. We can then afford Frost or Omac to play that other marking second tall as you call them - I'd just call them the old fashioned second KPB.

Yep, I was at that game too and it was obvious early in the 4th after Hawkins kicked his second for the term that Frost should have been moved on to him. Instead, we waited for a third before making the switch and after that Hawkins didn't really get a look in, but the damage was done. That says a bit about Omac though. I completely agree with the view RE the lack of midfield pressure leading to easy goals against us. Of course. That's modern footy. My issue with our defence is that Jetta and Hibberd are strong one on one defenders. Lever is a terrific interceptor and Salem is a beautiful kick. The obvious weak area is lock down KPD role. At this stage in our development as a group, May is a better bet than Frost or Oscar.