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Haha wow, really? Sure not on Fox Sports?

About 8000 people here.

We've struggled against quick teams this year so I can't see how we can counter GWS today. If it were at the MCG I'd actually be confident but if G-Dubya play their cards right they could/should win by 8-10 goals today. Either way, we're going to end up with a pick somewhere in the 4-7 range.

Nonetheless, 18th with nothing to play for but pride and they beat a squad about to play finals footy. When was the last time we actually played *well* in the last round? (Hint: we were also about to play finals)

Brisbane taking it to a top 5 team. Tomorrow we play a bottom 10 team and we'll get smashed.

Way too rational a post for Demonland.

Everyone's smiling in that photo. Did someone Krakouer joke? I'll let myself out.

Why are you asking me?

Nothing would come of it. Not guilty. Fined merely painting the league in a negative light (as they say).

He wasn't alone in the goal square, though (2:54): Good effort I thought, Turned his body to get away from the opponent and had to over-stretch for the ball. He didn't "drop it" as much as he just couldn't quite reach it as it fell.

We went through 2012 and 2014 with zero goalkickers. We might not have been much better, but it wouldn't have hurt to still have him in the team.

Well, I mean, this *is* Demonland, so...

I think North is acting too big for its boots. It's a defeatists approach to finals. They should field their best side this week, play themselves into form, and be prepared to go to Adelaide and try and win a game of footy. Freo is different. North imo is just silly and arrogant, although wouldn't expect any less from a Scott brother.

Well, "tanking" is defined has losing for tangible gain. I don't see how Freo resting players equates to "tanking" because they aren't set to benefit in any way apart from players being rested. I imagine they are still quite capable of winning. $6 for the win is a good bet imo. North, on the other hand...

Well the difference is that with Victory it was a concious decision. In Melbourne's case, I don't think they *choose* to be poor in the first quarter. They're just not a very good team. Boycotting probably wouldn't achieve anything.

It's...it's...ecto-plasium!

He was just on SEN. Gee whiz some of you are melodramatic. Seemed like his mind was still in it but ultimately his body was slowing down. It was clearly a mutual decision. I think they both knew his time was up.

We signed him after the Dogs let him go. He got 2 more years out of himself after being on the brink of retirement. Being critical of Roos not offering him another contract is silly. Time to move on.

Terlich, Bail, Fitzpatrick, M Jones, McKenzie, Garland, Grimes, Dunn, Howe are all players I expect to either be sacked, traded or sign elsewhere. I have liked Grimes but imo he might seek time at another club. Wouldn't be surprised if Dunn requests a trade. Watts is another who may entertain a trade but I'd like to see him stay.

Hold the phone... The team on top of the ladder has bigger, stronger and more experienced players? ROYAL COMMISSION NOW!

Roos has mentioned effort many, many times over the past few years. His responses last night were nothing we haven't heard before. The only difference is that there's a lot of non-answers in between those damning answers so you all forget it. Many times last year he noted the lack of effort, and he has a few times this year as well

Finals is a KPI, but it isn't assured. 7 wins was a KPI this year but we probably won't reach it. We should all be prepared for a season where we could finish with anywhere between 7 and 12 wins next year. By 2017 finals won't just be a KPI, it'll be an expectation, a necessity. Finals as a goal for 2016 was set merely as a means to have a benchmark to reach for. I think we are still a fair bit off the mark. Look at Hawthorn in 2006. After a few years down the bottom, they ended the season really strong and went into 2007 set for finals. 2016 should be our year to lead into finals. Bulldogs won 7 games last year. Port won 5 (?) before pushing for finals. I think 2015 has been a fantastic year insofar as blooding new talent: - Hogan - Brayshaw - Stretch - Harmes - ANB - VB And then the likes of Kent, Frost and Salem getting another season and pre-season under their belt. Then Viney, McDonald. Our problem still lies in the quality in the 23-30 range. Dunn, Garland, Jones, Watts just don't cut it as high quality players unfortunately, and we need to draft more mature bodies and minds of the VB, Vince type. I think we're closer than a lot think but at the same time, don't underestimate how tight and tough the 5th to 12th range on the ladder is. Really, anyone in that range has a finals-caliber team. It takes 2 or 3 bad games in a season to set you apart from a top 8 spot if you're in that range.

Has cemented his spot in good sides for almost a decade. Got under Hogan's skin for a while there as well. Important piece of Freo's defense, which is the best in the league (although "defense" in the AFL embodies the whole team across the ground).

And he was sprinting. The Freo player was just faster.Bit of advice, Clint: don't listen to Dwayne Russell.