jnrmac

puffery? I treat it as straight from the horse's mouth

Still not convinced. Then read this article with the benefit of hindsight. http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/bigger-bombers-for-bruising-battles-20111108-1n5it.html Changed body shape in 2 1/2 weeks? Really? Nothing wrong here....

Jobe Watson early 2012 Jobe Watson Early 2010

Well they were found guilty of salary cap breaches from 92-96 and they won a flag in 93. That wasn't taken off them. Cheating is in their DNA and the AFL does nothing about it. The bigger you are and the bigger the transgression the less the AFL will do.

And then watch the sycophantic media after that! Pope Francis will put him up for Sainthood...

This is so blindingly obvious that the AFL is sure to stuff it up.

And we paid pick 23 for melksham and pick 29 for Hibberd. Its just the way it is sometime. You have to break an egg to make an omelete....

I just did. I was responding to a comment that pick 29 has a 50/50 strike rate. I say its worse than that. If you want to have a discussion about whether you would prefer Michael Hibberd OR have pick 29 and be able to choose from a pool of 500 to find someone better good luck. I'll leave you to it. It was about whether Hibberd is worth pick 29 which I happen to think he is. He is exactly of the age, hardness, experience etc that we need.

I think its more like 20/30 chance of being a poor pick............ 29 Eric MacKenzie West Coast Claremont 2006 29 Tom Clurey Port Adelaide Murray U18 2012 29 Byron Donnellan Geelong Donald 1990 29 Touk Miller Gold Coast Calder U18 2014 29 Matthew Connell West Coast Subiaco 1991 29 Ben McKinley West Coast Northern U18 2005 29 Todd Curley Western Bulldogs West Perth 1995 29 Lewis Roberts-Thomson Sydney Swans NSW-ACT U18 2001 29 Adam Hunter West Coast Swan Districts 1999 29 Luke Shackleton Collingwood Tasmania U18 2002 29 Scott Lycett West Coast Port Adelaide (SANFL) 2010 29 Jack Gunston Adelaide Sandringham U18 2009 29 Tim Schmidt Sydney Swans West Adelaide 2003 29 Jason Torney Richmond South Adelaide 1994 29 Brendan Whitecross Hawthorn Zillmere 2007 29 Craig Walker Melbourne North Hobart 1986 29 Sam Phillipou Western Bulldogs Woodville-West Torrens 1992 29 Nathan Turvey Hawthorn South Fremantle 1996 29 Andrew Pascoe Collingwood Norwood 1987 29 Dayne Beams Collingwood Southport 2008 29 Marc Woolnough Geelong Southport 1997 29 Alex Forster Fremantle Norwood 2011 29 Rory Lobb Greater Western Sydney Swan Districts 2013 29 Scott Mollard Essendon Central U18 1993 29 Alex Morgan Essendon Oakleigh U18 2015 29 Wayne Campbell Richmond Golden Square 1989 29 Matt Rosa West Coast North Ballarat U18 2004 29 Tyson Stenglein Adelaide Subiaco 1998 29 Jamie Charman Brisbane Lions Northern Eagles 2000 29 Tim Allen St Kilda Mornington 1988

Agree. I think the club was planning to secure another rd 2 pick that they might be able to use but the Lewis scenario came out of the blue. Loathe to use this year's pick now. Will be interesting...

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-victoria-hire-former-essendon-football-manager-paul-hamilton-as-state-talent-manager-20161015-gs335g.html Now the VFL has hired the Bommers football manager from 2012 Paul Hamilton. The saga gets worse. What a shocking signal and a joke. Should be banned for life.

Its been said before but it was 2 weeks before Gillard called the election, Jason Clare and Kate Lundy were new ministers looking for a big statement and Eddie Obeid was on the front page of the papers every day wth his corruption trial. They were trying to clear the decks of Labor scandal so they could call an election. I am not into conspiracy theories except when it involves Labor politicians.

The AFL went with the 'one link on the chain' theory, that is, if we can't prove one link then the whole case fails. CAS went the other way and said there were strands in a cable and if one cannot be proved the whole case doesn't fall apart.

Yes but by then the outrage will have died down......a little

True. But they would have considered it and thought it a low probability. They wouldnt have given it a zero chance.

But this is not about money Rjay, this is about honour and clearing their names. You've got it all wrong......It's all about principle....

They had it backdated, same thing. Best you get off your high horse chap.

I wonder why players haven't sued Dank? Maybe they know that he knows what thet took. Maybe has does have records that would incriminate them.... Haven't seen anyone in the media throw this up....... Why hasn't Hird sued him? He has tried to sue everyone else. The answer is pretty obvious.

Maybe now Dank will come out with evidence he claims he has that will support the players.

No maybe.

I don't believe that for a minute. It would be highly negligent not to have considered that a possibility.

They also do around 40 hours a year of training in relation to drugs.........

And funny how Zaharakis could say no.

So what is Duston Fletcher, Brent Stanton and Jobe Watson's excuse?

Not hair splitting. The bolded bit is just wrong.