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True, but it's critical for a key forward to clunk them routinely. And Weid's follow-up work appears a bit slack.

Not just against us as others have detailed. One minor thing not mentioned is their failure to immediately line up Gawn on his shot for goal at around 17:00 of Q2. He marked the ball at 51m and was obviously going to have a shot but the ump initially stood with the 'stand' gesture 25m away before realising they had to run in to line him up.

Probably. And they won't be wrong either.

I wouldn't go as far as stabbing. But meddlesome umpire/AFL HQ seems very apt. I find it particulary humourous that the when they pay a free for the most flagrant deliberate OOB, the umpires now shout 'insufficient intent'. Would the player have avoided the penalty if they had been even more deliberate?

Who can rid me of this meddlesome umpiring?

It doesn’t just sound like it, he was. I mentioned it in a post during the game.

Whomever we play the next week.

It caused a chuckle at ours.

I noticed that and was in fear that the defender and ruckman might try to prove how important they are by doing what was done to Brown's namesake last week by the Essendon thug.

If I wasn't swearing, the umpiring would have left me speechless. Hawkins only one of many. While on the subject of Hawkins, I find his style of play very boring. A big bloke pushes/pulls his opponent out of the way and takes an easy mark and kicks a goal. Yawn. Compare that to rapid chain of passes & handballs and a quick snap at goal or a flying pack mark.

Hear hear (or is it Here Here). Noticed that for the post match interviews too. God knows why it took them so long to make these interviews intelligible, but grateful they've done it.

umm,, perhaps because noone has said that . Your clear implication was that vaccines are pointless. The data shows that's wrong. It was a vain hope that posting it would have any effect on your views, so I will desist from further replies and stay on topic. So, I was vaguely hoping for a draw between Hawthorn and Carlton. But I wondered if late in the season I'd regret having at least 2 teams on points not divisable by 4. Impossible to say at this stage I guess (and it didn't happen on the weekend). But historically, have those 2 odd points ever caused grief or otherwise to us in our final ladder position?

Since you were off topic, I'll risk doing the same in the hope you can be influenced by actual data rather than whatever is behind your comments. Have a look at this as a random example I found first up: https://aci.health.nsw.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0006/698388/20220104-COVID-19-Monitor.pdf The data clearly shows that if you are unvaccinated you have a far far higher chance of being seriously ill, in hospital or in ICU. Of course they could be lying to protect something or other. Or just maybe ....

Did the AFL do anything after the 2000 GF?

Suddenly BT seems good

Are these the usual commentators? Usually they are relatively good but not great today.

Agree. Flukes from the boundary, even under pressure are no match for a player zig zagging around multiple opponents and goaling under pressure even if dead in front.

It's not so long ago that if the AFL announced a Tassie team with the nickname Devils we'd assume MFC was being relocated to Tasmania.

I'd agree more wholeheartedly if he had a chance to work himself into form in the VFL first.

I'd rather hear the umps than the commentators. Though I agree with others that the umps should do less 'coaching',

Since security was clearly going to be inadequate some Swans players should have got boundary side of him before he kicked it. Given the lead it wouldn’t matter if somehow that led to a Geelong goal after a mis kick or kickin.

What's with these 50m penalties? Geelong player marks ball, Essendon player runs up towards the mark, looks at umpire and obviously gets the impression he went a yard too far so backs off and is pinged for not standing. Not even clear if the umpire said stand. Not sure it should be a penalty, let alone 50m.

When are you allowed to run back a few metres rather than “stand”. I’m confused.

Generally I agree., But in the GF he did choose to bump Oliver and hit him in the head. Should have been reported, but no surprise he wasn't...AFL.

Obviously this is pointless given what you said, but I don't think I've ever made such comments even decades ago, neither racist or misogynist. I'm not looking for brownie points or virtue signalling and I expect I'll get some flack for having the audacity of saying what a paragon of virtue I am. But I take that risk because I want to make the following general point. People with certain backgrounds know what it is like to be subject to nasty comments and what it can lead to. Some of them (sadly not all) therefore try hard to "not do unto others as others did unto you" and so do not make racist comments etc. Those belonging to the majority in power group (wherever it is), who have never been in such a position and who lack empathy, often just don't realise what's it like to be on the receiving end and dismiss such remarks as inconsequential and downplay it in various ways. I am sometimes nasty enough to hope they will one day know what it's like to be on the receiving end. (See I'm not so virtuous.) I make no comment about the current case because I haven't seen/heard the evidence.