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If this is true (which on the face of it seems likely sadly) Hawthorn sound more like a cult than a footy club.

That does not mean the decision was correct or that the mechanism is appropriate for football, Even Gil was spitting chips.

Don't worry, you're not thick. It took the best legal minds money could buy several hours to come up with a rationale for the decision.

Sorry if this has been mentioned before (haven't read this entire thread because I think the Brownlow is rubbish) but I was pleased (and somewhat surprised) to read this. Maybe Gil isn't the complete company man I thought. Maybe it was easier to write as he is on the way out. https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-news-2022-patrick-cripps-brownlow-medal-suspension-hit-on-callum-ah-chee-appeals-board-gillon-mclachlan-comments/news-story/f4603f6834cd9f3e70c0d3d882c885d9

Try https://www.afl.com.au/vfl/matches/4769 In some areas it is on free to air TV too.

What about the article about Van Rooyen looking forward to playing in a GF? Some are quick to grumble.

Aquiescing in something that offends your mates else is just as political.

A line drawn on the grass would be too obvious

The AFL should paint a line on the ground. Then umps wouldn’t have to shout back to the nine which is messy especially if the player plays on. No shouting. Penalise a player who doesn’t immediately head back to the line.

Anyone who can remotely be considered a key forward would be nice.

Very impressive. How can such an intelligent person sit next to BT without feeling ill is beyond me.

Speciesism against moose.

League to announce a third WA team?

So, we shouldn't discuss anything about other clubs and their players as they are not part of our club or future? You surely don't believe that. If discussion about Jackson annoys you, just ignore it.

We discuss all sorts of aspects of clubs and players, why not their motivation for decisions? Almost all of it is pure speculation, and if we really knew we wouldn't be posting on here anyway. We're not harming Jackon or his mum or his pet dog by discussing these things. I'm sure our interest in all aspects of Jackson will diminish pretty soon anyway. Personally I'm not fussed about him leaving - seems to offer opportunities for fixing deficencies in our list. Doesn't mean I'm not interested in the human side of things as well. I think it is completely reasonable to ask why Jackson decided not to pursue NBL

But he didn't. Was any reason ever given publically?

So Oliver reddened his eye himself. Give it a rest

Typical AFL

Disagree. Even if Jackson has had an underwhelming year, he is a known quantity and is more likely to come good than an untested pick 2 who may or may not become good in x years.

How can a pick 2 who may turn out to be a fizzer be equal to a former pick 3 who helped win a GF? There has to be more than steak knives in addition.

https://www.afl.com.au/video/841926/did-oliver-break-players-code-in-berry-incident-?videoId=841926&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1662959100001 Even if you accept this twaddle, how was Oliver meant to know it wasn't intentional?

The two are not incompatible. I believe we had an opportunity lost AND a good year.

I'm surprised that this could happen before the Casey GF (except for any players who can't play in that).

Would he really make public what he thought which would give to other clubs an indication of what changes he plans to make in 2023? Doubtless they have a good idea anyway, but why give them anything - they all have 17 other clubs to worry about. Or maybe he doesn't know himself yet.

Sorry 58er: Leading in every game and then losing a few of them yet never being thrashed (so that you remain second on the ladder at the end of the season) is hardly devestating (though disappointing to not do better etc). Anyway it sounds a lot more positive than being thrashed in games from the start.