Nasher

You think playing a player who is not ready can't make us worse? It can, and will. Toumpas struggling then Garland going off injured showed what happened when you are carrying a player for a whole match. It could have been the difference between winning and losing last week.

You're not in to gifting games... But you think we should gift him some games.

Barely an improvement on Byrnes for mine. That said, he's kicked more goals in his career than I'd have guessed before I looked, and he's obviously much younger than Byrnes.

Never to be bumped again.

I'm not a Casey watcher, but by the reports Taggert is a way off, and the fact that he played in the development league two weeks ago supports that. This is not the under 12s, you don't just give "give players a go". That go has to be earned.

It's not that we step back and ask the question, it's because most of us can't be bothered sitting down and calculating 1 + 1 when we already know the answer is 2.

And being industry standard may also be a contributing factor.

*sigh*

By the logic you've demonstrated in this thread, the Ox was clearly finished in 1996 after 67 games. He missed nearly two *entire* seasons!For a more modern example, how about Max Bailey? Clubs have waited much longer for much worse players than Clark.

In: Tapscott, Spencer, Davis Out: Garland, Gawn, Toumpas. Surprises me that some want to drop the sub rather than the subee. Kent added energy and Toumpas had a disaster.

Jumper number 1.

I suspect he might have been playing injured. Just a hunch ;-)

You still have to pay him his fixed term contract and it's still counted in the cap, and besides we're still miles off reaching the cap anyway. So yes it's sunk. I only see downside to delisting him and no upside.

When those who are qualified to say so declare it a bust, upon which the club and Clark will agree upon mutual retirement terms. I've got to say I'm staggered that anyone who saw him play doesn't want to give him every last opportunity to get fixed, especially when all the costs of retention are sunk.

If you really want to run with the ROI notion, what you're proposing still doesn't make any sense. If we bought his stock at $20 a share, you're wanting to flog it off for 1c. It costs us nothing extra to keep him (contracted and would still come under the salary cap so it's all a sunk cost), and we know what he adds when fit, so we might as well wait until he either comes back or wait until the liquidators step in. It makes no sense to cut our losses now.

I'm not sure I'm the one being daft here. You're either trying to tell us that he should be delisted if he has a career injury, or we've got a player on our list who is paid a lot but hasn't played much. Thank goodness we've got you here to point that out, we might not have worked it out otherwise. This is such the bleeding obvious that I thought you must be trying to make some other subtle point that I was missing. Guess not.Anyway, Clark is probably our best player and he'll be given every last opportunity to get up to scratch. If there is even the slightest chance of a return, the club will wait. And I'm absolutely fine with that, I too can wait.

I'm really not sure what your point is, unless you're suggesting that we should have forseen this.

I once made a comment that Cale Morton would be Craig Cameron's legacy. Sadly what panned out wasn't quite what I had in mind.

If it's not a decent mid on the table then we're better off just keeping Fitzpatrick IMO.

...for England? He's playing as a non-international player and has retired from Cricket in Australia. He could be the next Darren Pattinson.

Quick, rush Ed Cowan back!We're gone. The cupboard is completely bare. It's the Aussie equivalent of out: Pedersen in: Dunn.

Hutchy from TV's last name is Hutchison, not Hutchinson.

Cross will be a DFA. If we want him he'll cost nothing. I certainly wouldn't trade Fitzpatrick for him.

I wonder how they'd be travelling if they didn't have him. Suns take Ablett, Giants take Scully.

Casey just haven't been the same since the MFC took Fitzpatrick off them ;-)