Lord Travis

I hope not because the elite young talent isn't there. There's no Petracca, Oliver, Brayshaw, Kozzie level talents outside of perhaps Windsor.

The club is cooked. Rebuild time.

Are we tanking?

Best of luck to him. I was impressed with him in his draft year. He's got a great work ethic and loves to crack in and try to use his speed too. His attitude could carry him far as a player, but he's still got some size to put on to compete at AFL level. His ceiling and aim would be an ANB pressure and link type player at the level. Keen to see how he goes against North. Won't die wondering!

Agree with this. He showed great flashes in his games down back and could be a Lever replacement long term with intercept marking ability and versatility to play tall or short. Up forward... he's floundered. Should be played in defence permanently, despite our forward issues. Short contract of two more years would be about right. He hasn't shown enough continuity with his body or form to demand more.

When were they? Watching on tv from a far during lockdown? Was great we finally won one, but I remember it with sadness with my dad crying on the phone as he battled through cancer. After decades attending nearly every MCG game together we didn't even get to enjoy the flag. It was horrible. We'll have to be content with tat for another fifty years it seems. I'm middle aged and will likely never get to watch a demon flag at the MCG. The club brings me nothing but misery. I don't know why I keep supporting so hard at this point.

I'm ashamed of the club today. We've played like trash for weeks now, but not not stand up on a big day like today was so disheartening. Letting Maynard get through a full match of footy without giving him any physical attention after what he did to a beloved demon was shameful. One of the worst things I've say through as a diehard supporter of this club, and I've say through decades of [censored] at this point. Mentally weak. Shameful. Disappointing. Our premiership window ends with a whimper while that thug runs around like he's at training.

And they're known as uneducated filth for a reason. Their famous cheer squad leader is a convicted pedophile. Why would any person of sound mind agree with their assertion?I f anything, our premiership in 2021 is worth more, as we dominated everyone all season long without any form of advantage. We were the outright best team both home and away season and finals. It was factually one of the most dominant seasons this century. Pies etc got a home ground advantage over an interstate clubs etc. Anyone discrediting our 2021 flag should be ignored and flogged before the masses for slander.

Mini rebuild required at the club. We're not contending this year with this list and this game style. We've lost whatever identity and brand we had, and the players have gone into preservation mode as a result. The next wave coming through in Sparrow, Bowey etc have not come on, and as the old core is now on the slide, there's no one picking up the slack to make us competitive. It's sad that Gawn and May will retire in the coming years battling away in an uncompetitive team.

Our core players are no longer consistently impacting games. They float in and out of games and even get beaten by their direct opponents now. The best teams have stars who always dominate. Our stars are fading sadly.

Give Darcy the medal. He's a gun and he's doing God's work with the Maynard hit.

He's from WA and was added to our list 2 full days before this match. I think he can get a pass for not having shifted his life already!

This will be another overcorrection and disaster. Prepare for another unwatchable round of football ruined by umpiring, this time with even more game deciding unnecessary free kicks 💩

Nothing. He has a choice to make. He is however a mad Demon and has been to down to Vic and visited the club multiple times. We've been welcoming him and his old man Jeff back for years, and had Kalani train with us when it was permitted. I'd be absolutely shocked if he didn't nominate us.

Let's hope he's a Bartlett type. We would gladly take 40+ goals year after year.

Quarters like that kill any joy I get as a supporter and spectator.

He usually does. He's unlucky that he's at a club with May and Lever as tall defenders. He'd get a game as a tall defender every week at any other club in the league.

Much better kicking today, though the Saints are applying next to no pressure. Keep the foot down and get this one over before half time boys!

Good get by the Lions if they've managed to keep him. I was sure he'd come back home to Vic on a big money offer when he hit free agency. He's the sort of player we need from an offensive perspective in our midfield. The defensive side of his game is lacking though, so not the best suited to our current style IMO.

Assume it's a compliment and most aren't aware of who Vince McMahon is and his recently uncovered indiscretions!

What a dogsh*t take. We finished top of the ladder and statistically had the second most dominant finals series this century. We absolutely [censored] in the 2021 premiership. Unlike the dogs, we've finished top four the two years since too and we're genuinely premiership contender. The Dogs missed finals altogether post premiership after a fluke win from seventh. We are nothing like the Dogs. Nothing. Time for you to have a lay down champ!

Not surprised by this. Nibbler is consistently our most damaging midfielder linking up into the forward line. Petracca has flashes of brilliance, but usually is weight of numbers to aid scores. Our other midfielders are poor. Windsor hopefully develops this part of his game in future, as he shows promise with his short kicking to leading team mates.

Our game style wasn't really an issue IMO. As Hoyne pointed out, if it weren't for inaccurate goal kicking (and we kicked to average), we would've won 3 of the 4 finals. He said in a 2023 review podcast that despite going out in straight sets, we were the form team of finals ironically. All we needed was to kick straighter for goal when it mattered. That's it. If we went at average, then we're premiers in 2023, and would've made the prelims in 2022. That's even considering the injury riddled forward line we were stuck with late in season. I expect that due to the pressure of straight set finals exits, we've over-corrected on a gameplan that wasn't broken. If we simply reverted to what we were the past 3 years, we'd likely be second on the ladder at present. Hopefully we just revert and see what happens. Our issue is personnel IMO. We need forwards who can convert if given the opportunity. Fritsch is the only reliable one in front of goal.

Hard to fathom we not only lost to such a bad team, but got dominated in every facet of the game. That was as bad a loss as we've ever had under Goodwin. Our midfield is spluttering along. What has happened? Has Mcqualter derailed whatever synergy they used to have? Genuinely confused how one of the most dominant midfields this century has turned to rubbish with largely the same personnel on field.

Our defending of the corridor tonight has been the worst in recent memory. What's happened with our midfield tonight?